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HELP...2001 7.3 starts but runs terrible...

had this thing for 7 years now, put almost 100k miles on her, never been an issue other than tires and batteries.

went out to start 2 days ago and she fires, but idles TERRIBLE with almost zero throttle response.

CPS was done about 2 years ago(?) under the recall.

did an oil change just in case, checked HPOP level, and its about an inch down...still ran like crap.

had to go to work, so i took the car. came back after, started her up and all was normal!

got excited, drove for about 4 blocks and she started stumbling, spurting, and stalling.

on the way home she cleared up for a very breif moment...about 4 seconds she ran GREAT, but went right back to crap mode

as she sits now, will turn over and fire up, but shakes something terrible, no smoke...and worst of all, no codes!

open to any ideas since local ford wants 200 dollars just to look at her

past trucks...
72 F350 2wd 390/auto
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76 F350 4x4 390/4 speed 6" lift 38" Hawgs
89 Eddie Bauer Bronco
79 Bronco 460/auto 35" Swampers
93 Lightning with KB 2.2
01 supercrew 2wd 5.4 liter
01 F250 Platinum 7.3 diesel 6" icon 35" procomps
...and currently a 75 F100, waiting for a 6.0 heart

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Does it act like it's running on half the cylinders?

I ask because about 3 weeks ago, mine was running fine, then ran like crap, very little throttle response and I noticed that my EGT gauge dropped to 100*. I have a Hypertech programmer and I ran codes. It told me that the IDM (Injector Driver Module) had codes. Took it to the shop - turned out to be the driver's side UVCH (Under valve cover harness). They replaced - all is good.

My UVCH ohm'd out bad, but they also said one of the issues is that it sometimes is the plug under the valve cover that connects the UVCH with the harness outside the valve cover separates making it run rough.

Have you been able to run codes????


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Does it act like it's running on half the cylinders?

I ask because about 3 weeks ago, mine was running fine, then ran like crap, very little throttle response and I noticed that my EGT gauge dropped to 100*. I have a Hypertech programmer and I ran codes. It told me that the IDM (Injector Driver Module) had codes. Took it to the shop - turned out to be the driver's side UVCH (Under valve cover harness). They replaced - all is good.

My UVCH ohm'd out bad, but they also said one of the issues is that it sometimes is the plug under the valve cover that connects the UVCH with the harness outside the valve cover separates making it run rough.

Have you been able to run codes????
i would guess its similar to running on half cylinders, but thats merely a guess.

i did not look at the EGT when coming back...

...and tried code check twice, with no codes found either time.

the only warning light is the SERVICE ENGINE SOON light which only comes on when its running.

once i shut her off, i get no warning light and my checker wont do anything but key-on-engine-off tests

past trucks...
72 F350 2wd 390/auto
85 C10 4x4 (first & last chevy)
86 F150 2wd 300/4 spd
75 F100 4x4 460/auto & 38" Hawgs
77 F250 highboy 4x4 400/4 speed
76 F350 4x4 390/4 speed 6" lift 38" Hawgs
89 Eddie Bauer Bronco
79 Bronco 460/auto 35" Swampers
93 Lightning with KB 2.2
01 supercrew 2wd 5.4 liter
01 F250 Platinum 7.3 diesel 6" icon 35" procomps
...and currently a 75 F100, waiting for a 6.0 heart
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Hmmm. That's interesting about the SES light going out and no codes stored. My Hypertech is the same way, only KOEO testing.

Did a search in the search box under the PowerStroke.org logo at the top of the page, here's a link to one of them. Not saying it is your problem, but maybe a place to start???
UVCH??? Maybe?


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Hmmm. That's interesting about the SES light going out and no codes stored. My Hypertech is the same way, only KOEO testing.

Did a search in the search box under the PowerStroke.org logo at the top of the page, here's a link to one of them. Not saying it is your problem, but maybe a place to start???
UVCH??? Maybe?
yea, i did some poking around on that thread as well as NCHornets, but im not getting a dam code to pinpoint with so im not sure what direction to go...

...considering pulling the drivers side valve cover to see if i can do the zip tie and clear it up

past trucks...
72 F350 2wd 390/auto
85 C10 4x4 (first & last chevy)
86 F150 2wd 300/4 spd
75 F100 4x4 460/auto & 38" Hawgs
77 F250 highboy 4x4 400/4 speed
76 F350 4x4 390/4 speed 6" lift 38" Hawgs
89 Eddie Bauer Bronco
79 Bronco 460/auto 35" Swampers
93 Lightning with KB 2.2
01 supercrew 2wd 5.4 liter
01 F250 Platinum 7.3 diesel 6" icon 35" procomps
...and currently a 75 F100, waiting for a 6.0 heart
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Good luck with that.

If for some reason, you can't figure it out and you need a shop, I can recommend Orangevale Diesel. They did the work on my truck. They are just east of Hazel on Greenback Lane. You can find them on the internet. Not sure what part of town you're in.


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Are sure it's not a fuel issue, pump going bad, fuel filter dirty, trash in tank clogging pick up tube. I have had fuel issues twice, once a pump, once trash in tank, both times it acted the way your describing.

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If for some reason, you can't figure it out and you need a shop, I can recommend Orangevale Diesel.
i may just give em a call and see if they can suggest anything...

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Are sure it's not a fuel issue, pump going bad, fuel filter dirty, trash in tank clogging pick up tube. I have had fuel issues twice, once a pump, once trash in tank, both times it acted the way your describing.
...yea, fuel has been on the brain but im not sure how to track that one down since she has 1/2 a tank?!?

past trucks...
72 F350 2wd 390/auto
85 C10 4x4 (first & last chevy)
86 F150 2wd 300/4 spd
75 F100 4x4 460/auto & 38" Hawgs
77 F250 highboy 4x4 400/4 speed
76 F350 4x4 390/4 speed 6" lift 38" Hawgs
89 Eddie Bauer Bronco
79 Bronco 460/auto 35" Swampers
93 Lightning with KB 2.2
01 supercrew 2wd 5.4 liter
01 F250 Platinum 7.3 diesel 6" icon 35" procomps
...and currently a 75 F100, waiting for a 6.0 heart
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How long since the last fuel filter change? If its been over 30k I would start with that. If not, you need to get the fuel pressure checked, you can do it your self with a couple parts or pay to get it done, my local dealer charged me $45.

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How long since the last fuel filter change? If its been over 30k I would start with that. If not, you need to get the fuel pressure checked, you can do it your self with a couple parts or pay to get it done, my local dealer charged me $45.
just sent the wife to get a new one, the one time she fired up and ran was right after i pulled the filter to make sure the bowl had fuel in it...

...it did have fuel, but of course goo'd all over at reinstall, so im gonna try a quick swap!

past trucks...
72 F350 2wd 390/auto
85 C10 4x4 (first & last chevy)
86 F150 2wd 300/4 spd
75 F100 4x4 460/auto & 38" Hawgs
77 F250 highboy 4x4 400/4 speed
76 F350 4x4 390/4 speed 6" lift 38" Hawgs
89 Eddie Bauer Bronco
79 Bronco 460/auto 35" Swampers
93 Lightning with KB 2.2
01 supercrew 2wd 5.4 liter
01 F250 Platinum 7.3 diesel 6" icon 35" procomps
...and currently a 75 F100, waiting for a 6.0 heart

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