performance questions

[twildman]

Originally Posted by mschn99

the biggest downside is motor longevity.....probably less than 100k after the mod...but running NOS in a diesel is already gonna shorten the life....and you would have the fuel you were looking for then........Just a though.....

Could you please either post or pm the name of the guy who is telling you this, because it is false information. And adding the big oil system does not add fuel, merely adds a broader powerband to the motor.

[RJacks258]

Running the NOS is not going to hurt anything. It actually can help if you have a chip or programmer that is causing the engine to be overfueled(excessive smoke). The main thing that kills engines with NOS is getting greedy for more. My truck smokes a hell of a lot without it, but with it its only a little bit of smoke. And the EGT's drop about 100-200 degrees. I know some people like alot of smoke but its the worst thing for the engine, being overfueled. Adding NOS is an easier and cheaper way to get more oxygen into the engine. A heck of alot cheaper than bigger turbos, and intercoolers.

[drmiller100]

Originally Posted by mschn99

u know....there are not many guys on here i think could benifit from this, but if your already running NOS......you may want to look into the big oil system...i got a lot of info from a guy today and the biggest downside is motor longevity.....probably less than 100k after the mod...but running NOS in a diesel is already gonna shorten the life....and you would have the fuel you were looking for then........Just a though.....

big oil by itself will not shorten engine life appreciably. running nitrous will. running pane will. running 500 plus horsepower will.

big oil is a step in the evolution. if you make the step, and a big step it is, you are on the road to big horspower.

big horsepower in ANY engine will shorten life expectancy.

[drmiller100]

Originally Posted by RJacks258

Running the NOS is not going to hurt anything. It actually can help if you have a chip or programmer that is causing the engine to be overfueled(excessive smoke). .

get a better tune and you might make as much power without needing the nos.

get big oil, and you might possibly be able to run your tune without the nos.

just thoughts.

would you agree that your engine will not last as long as totally bone stock one driven by some old lady driving cross country at 65 mph empty?

guys that step up the horsepower tend to have shorter engine life expectancies. step up over 400 horse, and life expectancy steps down.

[RJacks258]

I can't find a better tune except for possibly the TS 6 position, though me running NOS with the Chip is better than the NOS, or Chip by themselves.

[Ramsmoker]

Hey jacks, I'm with you on this. The key here is not the nitrous, but rather how much. Airplanes have had it for years with no reliability issues. It doesn't burn, it mearly expands at twice the rate of oxygen. So here we go and where do we stop. Add more fuel, need more air.

[RJacks258]

Hey Ramsmoker, I'm glad someone gets it. I've been trying to explain it for a while, on here and other places. People automatically think that nitrous is going to blow their engine up. I'm not getting greedy with it, I've talked to alot of experts on this issue, and as long as I pay attention to certain aspects of the truck when running The nitrous, I shouldn't have anything to worry. On a side note though, I sold my Banks big hoss module yesterday, so I can by my TS 6 position, and after I took it out I dialed the six gun to level 1(stock) and let me tell you these things are dogs without any enhancements. My TS chip will be here by the weekend, I can't wait.

[pro99line]

Originally Posted by RJacks258

Running the NOS is not going to hurt anything. It actually can help if you have a chip or programmer that is causing the engine to be overfueled(excessive smoke). The main thing that kills engines with NOS is getting greedy for more. My truck smokes a hell of a lot without it, but with it its only a little bit of smoke. And the EGT's drop about 100-200 degrees. I know some people like alot of smoke but its the worst thing for the engine, being overfueled. Adding NOS is an easier and cheaper way to get more oxygen into the engine. A heck of alot cheaper than bigger turbos, and intercoolers.

Cheaper in the beginning but in the long run it cost more. Add up all the refills and it is expensive. I have many friends that run it. I understand what you are saying about NOS not hurting motors but that is onlt motors that is more designed for it. Take a motor with abvout 13:1 or more compression and spray it and if it is not a built motor you definetely have a huge risk of blowing a head gasket or worse blowing the intake off the vehicle and through the hood. Also the NOS leans a motor out so if you do not compensate and add more fuel you could burn a hole in the piston. But I do agree that if used properly NOS is a very safe power adder. I also agree that if used very very very rarely it is cheaper than a turbo or supercharger but more expensive if you are too happy with the button or your foot is too heavy.

[RJacks258]

The nitrous in my truck is only used occasionally. As far as the lean condition, I don't think I'll have to worry. Myt truck with the big hoss module blows plenty of smoke. Even with a shot of NO2. Now that the big hoss is gone and the TS chip is on the way, I think it'll be even more on the rich side without any nitrous.

[Klutch]

If you want the best power/program/chip phone DP Tuner and talk to Jody. Best programs out there IMHO, he can make a custom tune for anything, so you could explain that your using nitrous and he will make a custom tune.

Here's big oil from someone that has some pretty accurate information on it. It will not give you more fuel. It will not shorten the life of your motor, depending on your application and other mods. If you use it to say run a really hot chip or bigger injectors then you will shorten your the life of your motor, because of higher cylinder pressures. Big Oil is only going to supply the proper amount of oil pressure the system was designed for nothing more nothing less. Like I said if you use big oil so you can run other things then cylinder pressures go up, but then that is not directly related to big oil. So to state that is going to shorten the life span of the motor, that would be incorrect. There are a lot of trucks out there with big oil and no reports of engine failure because of it.