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PHP hydra or re-burn my current 6pos chip???

Ok so done a lot of searching and reading on the hydra 17pos chip and also have done research on reburning my current chip with TW tunes or PHP,can't find any posts from members who have switched from one to the other saying what they liked/disliked,so if anyone has some first hand knowledge I'm all ears!!!! I'm leaning towards the hydra for the price/easability of reprogramming/and 17pos,but currently have a TS 6pos chip with canned tunes but want something a little more "custom" than the average,stock,high idle,50,75,100,140.Truck is a 01 excab LB,mods are 5"exh,and AFE stage 2 intake,nothing fancy it's my weekend warrior hauling at the most 6-7k or just running around town,what's everyone's thoughts?????? And thanks in advance for any input,it's greatly appreciated!
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I only really use 3-4 tunes on my hydra. I really like it but if I where you I would just reburn your chip you have. If you where going to be changing injectors and turbo and trying to fine tune everything then the hydra is great.


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REBURN.

Did i say Reburn ?

Just in case , IMO Reburn.

Reburn and then spend the couple of other hundred on something else. Never ran TS canned tunes but someones reburn custom tunes are that much better is what the general consensus says over and over again. A few good tunes is really all you need as stated above , not very many people really using 17 positions and i'm not trying to say not to use PHP. If your going to buy tunes from lots of people then by all means get a hydra , but most folks are fine with one good chip with a few tunes. I have one with 8 and 99.9% of it is spent in two tunes , on another 6 position i have 99.9% is spent in 2 as well.

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I got the PHP FU chip.. it was fun to play with and test out tuns at first, but then I settled into a few tunes I like and haven't had a need to reburn it since.

I'd suggest to just reburn if you have a chip and save the money. if you didn't already have a chip, then maybe the Hydra would be fun, but the fun would wear off.


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Thnx sbluke55/scagle1,great info!
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I agree, just reburn. I use 2 positions on my truck no matter what im doing, either DD or towing 8K lbs.

I use stock to start and warm my truck up

I use my 100 HP tune for everything else. I never have issues with my EGT's even pulling grades. I can feather the throttle if its getting hot or simply drop a gear and im good to go. I recommend PHP based on the low EGT's but i am biased and have never tried anything else other than a superchip.

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Add me to the reburn list. For all the reasons already stated

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I agree, just reburn. I use 2 positions on my truck no matter what im doing, either DD or towing 8K lbs.

I use stock to start and warm my truck up

I use my 100 HP tune for everything else. I never have issues with my EGT's even pulling grades. I can feather the throttle if its getting hot or simply drop a gear and im good to go. I recommend PHP based on the low EGT's but i am biased and have never tried anything else other than a superchip.
I vote reburn. I could get away with one tune and that would be the 100 hp. I dd, haul or whatever in that tune.

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Reburn. I use 3 slots though. Whisper, high-idle, and 120hp. I used to swap tunes around all of the time, and if I ever haul something heavy I might flip it to my tow tune, but now that I'm accustomed to it, it just stays in one spot 95% of the time.

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thank you EVERYONE for the insight and opinions,i am gonna go with a re-burn with PHP tunes,i think im gonna go with
-high idle 1k
-65hp moderate tow(7,500-10k)
-80hp light tow(up to 7,500)
-80hp DD
-100hp performance
-120hp race
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