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2001 MILD towing upgrade ideas

I just read supersecretsquirrels thread and my Qs are similar but not the same. First some background/history might help you understand my headspace and reluctance to be a maniac.

I had a 99 F350 dually Ccab with a 40HP Superchip, plugged into the computer. That was about all I did to my 99. I towed an empty toyhauler back from LA to home here in Canada. I was disappointed my 7.3 felt like a bit of a slug pulling modest mountains from CA to here. Our local climbs on the Coquihalla Hwy are steeper, so I decided to sell the 99 and bought an '05 6.0L. Of course i'd heard all the bad so I added ARP studs, deleted EGR, 4" exhaust. I had an Edge Platinum, mostly to help me monitor temps. I used their tow tune, sometimes Drive tune. THEN I went to SCT with Innovative tunes, because every 6.0L guy raved about how great it was. A couple of head gaskets later, and nothing but problems.

So when I see all the recommendations for the various tuners for the 7.3 I am nervous and cringe. Empty the truck has more than enough power and I need zero improvement. I now haul 11' Lance and pull a 16' cargo trailer with some quads. I want to make sure I don't overheat/damage anything. Some MILD tow improvement with NO RISK of damage from overdoing it would be nice. I liked Joel's replies to secretsquirrel about leaving truck stock. Hmmm

I was thinking 4" exhaust, and maybe a minor chip or tune. I also see some recommendations from others to upgrade the intake. My son's friend has a basic tuner that I think he plugs into OBDII port to program 1 of 3 settings: economy, tow or performance. I think performance is 75HP.

On my 6.0L I tried to drive to my temps to try to avoid causing damage (not sure it worked). So for this 7.3 I'd like to monitor my exhaust, boost, coolant & tranny temps. I currently have a tranny temp gauge on my 7.3 from previous owner. [I know the 4R100 can be a time bomb and I will eventually have it built by a good, local specialist. Billet this & that, plus deep Mag Hytac tranny pan]. Can I get something like my old Edge tuner that will show me my temps for the exhaust, coolant and boost? And also give me ability to get a bit more HP for towing, without damaging stuff? Would the Edge performance be any different than the plug-in 40HP Superchip from my old 7.3 ?

What do you think of leaving it stock and watching temps/performance and then considering some mods (like exhaust)? I don't even mind having to slow down on the hills and knock it down a gear.

thanks!!
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Gauges are a definite yes, for the things you already mentioned.

You really should go for a chip with custom tunes, Tony Wildman from Total Diesel Performance is well known for great transmission tunes.

You are going to get recommended the PHP Hydra, which is a great chip I love mine but since you want to stay stock you don't need it. The TS holds 6 tunes, which trust me you'll find a good use for.

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a billet compressor wheel is a great upgrade even on a stock truck.

a good tow tune makes a world of difference. Tony Wildman would be a great choice.

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I just discovered that I have 3:73 rear end. I ASSUMED all duallies were 4;10. So I may see a bit of a towing issue. How much can I assist that with more power? I guess the good news is that all my empty driving will be better mileage. I noticed 60MPH was about 1700-1800 RPM and my 4:10s were always 2000-2100 RPM at same speed.
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superchips is nothing even close to a custom tuned tow tune with great trans shifting.
a 40hp superchips tune would be comparable to like a 15hp tow tune from a custom tuner..

so you can imagine what a 60hp custom tow tune is like.

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Where are you? I can only assume you're around me by your reference to "the coke"

I might have a dually 4.10 axle setup up for grabs if that's something you're interested in.

I have to go to work now, i'll check back here later

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The difference between 3.73's and 4.10 is pretty minimal I wouldn't be too concerned unless you tow very heavy,very often, if that was the case I would say go for 4.30's.

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Gauges, exhaust, cai, tw or php tow tunes. The 25 hp php tunes work good for me. I've hauled 15 k with mine no problems with high egts

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superchips is nothing even close to a custom tuned tow tune with great trans shifting.
a 40hp superchips tune would be comparable to like a 15hp tow tune from a custom tuner..

so you can imagine what a 60hp custom tow tune is like.
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I already have a dash mounted after-market tranny gauge. I could install pillar gauge but I really liked the look of my old Edge on my 6.0L. So what needs to be monitored... EGT, boost and coolant temp?

I think 4" exhaust always good for diesel to help it breath. air intake, gauges and mild tune. My son also did some sort of wheel in his friend's turbo. not sure I need that or what it does.
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