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Turbo Upgrade

Has anyone seen/heard of just doing this "upgrade" to the stock Garret 38 turbo? I'm not looking to go over 400HP, but turbo lag/boost/EGT's are my big concern. By the looks of this housing, would it be the same that's on the 38r?

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By the looks of it this upgrade, a ww2, and rebuild kit i'd be spending about half of a 38r with a ww2. I like the thought of being able to rebuild the stock turbo.

IF i did go the 38r route, am I wasting $ by not getting bigger injectors?

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that is bigger non-wastgated ex housing.
for what its worth you can buy all those parts from riffraff for around 380, 100 bucks cheaper.

it will lower drive pressure, and egts.
would probably be a good match with stage 1's? ive thought about getting one from riffraff

would probably be better off finding a used van turbo.
it has a larger 1.15 ex housing and you can probably find one cheaper than buying that stuff. plus youll have a whole turbo!

the 38r is an upgrade even with stock injectors.
i think csipsd said its about a 30hp upgrade over stock.
and hes beat the hell out of his and its still going.

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Also don't forget, larger housing may mean lower EGT's but it also means slower spool or more lag.
You can put a 38r on a stock truck easy and you'll see a gain from it.

CSIPSD isn't running a 38r he runs an h2e. He may have a long long time ago but he's been T4i setup for as long as I've been on this forum at least

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im just saying he used to run a 38r and it is now on his wifes excursion if i remember correctly. so they last a long time and take some abuse as well.

what injectors do you plan on running mkfan?

it will spool a little slower but as long as your tuned it wont be an issue.

Joel is happy with his van turbo, which has an even larger housing
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38r is durable as hell, for a drop in turbo it is the best all around.

OP annother thing to consider is the kit from Barder. for somewhere around 6-700 I think you get upgraded wheel and bearings, and all that.

there is a thread on this page "DIY brute 66" where that kit is mentioned

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I just bought that kit on ebay, haven't installed it yet. I also purchased the ww2 before that and haven't installed it yet. Will I regret this? Or should I sell all the parts and buy a 38r, something i probably should of done in the first place.

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mastertech i think you will like it.
ive even thought about getting the same setup only cause it wouldnt cost me much, and plus im just sticking with 160cc injectors.

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Someone should buy this

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thanks (blue99) not sure what your name is, i did the same thing because i didn't want to spend the money, plus i need injectors too. Hey, joel, you like your van turbo? Good performance? Im looking forward to putting my stuff in, plus i have a srp1.1 waiting to go in. Im doing some trans work while the truck is down for the go fast parts. Thanks guys!

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I'm very content with my Van turbo.
The drive pressures are right at 1:1 and the EGT's are always super low compared to the stock .84 turbo I used to run.

The spool up is obviously a little slower, but it's really not bad once I put the billet wheel in. And the top end more than makes up for it.
I got mine with low miles and in great shape for $80, kid didn't even know what it was.
Plus $200 for the wheel and a case of beer to have the exhaust housing modded a GOOD welder I know.
Sold my shot turbo to BD Diesel as core for $150 - so for $150 plus a little beer, I'm happy

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