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Removing EGT probe

I am going to attempt to remove my EGT probe that has been in the truck for at least 5 or 6 years. Previous owner installed it, and I hope he used a bit of never seize. I am going to soak the heck out of it with Kroil for a few days before I try removing it. Has anybody ever had any issues removing EGT probes?

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What are you going to plug the hole with?
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You replacing it?? what's the reason for removing it???

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The Excursion came with an Edge Evolution programmer when I bought it. I didn't like how hard it caused the tranny to shift from 1st to 2nd, so I put it back to stock and went with a PHP 5 position chip instead. (Much better!) The tranny still shifts hard from 1st to 2nd but not as bad now. The previoius owner had the transmission rebuilt by some performance shop in B.C. Canada (spent almost $5000 on it!!!) and I dont know exactly what kind of tranny is in it now, but shifting from 1-2 is hard, the rest of the shifts are nice and firm so I dont get it.

I still need a monitor, so I bought the Edge Insight CS, hoping the Evolution EGT probe connector would work with it but it doesn't. The Insight has a 6 pin connector where as the Evoloution probe is a 4 pin. So long story short I need to remove the EGT probe to install the new one.

Funny cause when I called Edge, the tech on the phone told me the probes were compatible with the Evolution and Insight, but when I got it, it obviously wasnt. I called them back, got a different tech on the phone, and he told me they weret compatible and that I had to buy a new probe for the Insight.

So I am hoping I can remove the old one without any issues!! The threads better be the same for both or I will have to plug the hole and drill and tap a new one.

2002 7.3L Excursion Limited 4x4
- 21"/11"/21" Vision X Xmitter Prime light bars (47,000 lumens)
- Edge CS Monitor
- Tymar intake
- Fumoto Quick Drain Valve
- Coolant filter, ELC, 203* T-stat and billet housing
- Riff Raff boots
- PHP Chip (Stock, 80DD, 100Race, Whisper Mode, 80Tow, Smoke Show)
- F350 leafs front and back
- Hellwig rear sway bar, Bilstein 5100's
- LT275/65R20 Durtrac's on 20" King Ranch wheels
- Fred Goeske 2" steel wheel adapters
- Genuine Larry B's Denso starter

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Loooking at the installation manuals closely, I might get away with only having to remove the probe itself, and not the thermocouple fitting.

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- 21"/11"/21" Vision X Xmitter Prime light bars (47,000 lumens)
- Edge CS Monitor
- Tymar intake
- Fumoto Quick Drain Valve
- Coolant filter, ELC, 203* T-stat and billet housing
- Riff Raff boots
- PHP Chip (Stock, 80DD, 100Race, Whisper Mode, 80Tow, Smoke Show)
- F350 leafs front and back
- Hellwig rear sway bar, Bilstein 5100's
- LT275/65R20 Durtrac's on 20" King Ranch wheels
- Fred Goeske 2" steel wheel adapters
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The fitting in the manifold will be the same. The temp probe will be the same. The only difference will be the plug end on the cable.

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The Excursion came with an Edge Evolution programmer when I bought it. I didn't like how hard it caused the tranny to shift from 1st to 2nd, so I put it back to stock and went with a PHP 5 position chip instead. (Much better!) The tranny still shifts hard from 1st to 2nd but not as bad now. The previoius owner had the transmission rebuilt by some performance shop in B.C. Canada (spent almost $5000 on it!!!) and I dont know exactly what kind of tranny is in it now, but shifting from 1-2 is hard, the rest of the shifts are nice and firm so I dont get it.

I still need a monitor, so I bought the Edge Insight CS, hoping the Evolution EGT probe connector would work with it but it doesn't. The Insight has a 6 pin connector where as the Evoloution probe is a 4 pin. So long story short I need to remove the EGT probe to install the new one.

Funny cause when I called Edge, the tech on the phone told me the probes were compatible with the Evolution and Insight, but when I got it, it obviously wasnt. I called them back, got a different tech on the phone, and he told me they weret compatible and that I had to buy a new probe for the Insight.

So I am hoping I can remove the old one without any issues!! The threads better be the same for both or I will have to plug the hole and drill and tap a new one.
If you are having hard shifting because I'm having the same issue as you, and Bill spend some time trying different tunes and shifting, but I need a valve body. John Woods has a valve body that will cure our problem, and if you order from John Woods himself he doesn't charge a core upfront, only if you don't send in your within 30 days.

As said above the coupling should be the same, I will keep my fingers crossed for ya

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I dont know what exactly is up with my tranny. Like I said, the previous owner spent almost $5000 on it. It works great, but the shift from 1-2 is a lot harder than I would like it to be. The Edge Evolution compounded that problem. Could a valve body cause hard shifting from 1-2? Or would it be the same for all gears. I also noticed it takes a long time to shift from 3rd to OD.

I could talk to Bill at PHP to help me, but that would mean I would have to send my chip away to get repgrammed. I live in Canada, so it would mean I wouldnt have a chip for a while.

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- 21"/11"/21" Vision X Xmitter Prime light bars (47,000 lumens)
- Edge CS Monitor
- Tymar intake
- Fumoto Quick Drain Valve
- Coolant filter, ELC, 203* T-stat and billet housing
- Riff Raff boots
- PHP Chip (Stock, 80DD, 100Race, Whisper Mode, 80Tow, Smoke Show)
- F350 leafs front and back
- Hellwig rear sway bar, Bilstein 5100's
- LT275/65R20 Durtrac's on 20" King Ranch wheels
- Fred Goeske 2" steel wheel adapters
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I dont know what exactly is up with my tranny. Like I said, the previous owner spent almost $5000 on it. It works great, but the shift from 1-2 is a lot harder than I would like it to be. The Edge Evolution compounded that problem. Could a valve body cause hard shifting from 1-2? Or would it be the same for all gears. I also noticed it takes a long time to shift from 3rd to OD.

I could talk to Bill at PHP to help me, but that would mean I would have to send my chip away to get repgrammed. I live in Canada, so it would mean I wouldnt have a chip for a while.
It sounds like we have the same problem, what is happening is the fluid isn't getting into the pump correctly, and please don't quote me on the terminology but that's the best way I can explain it. So the valve body helps correct the problem, I have a Jasper HD tranny that I was having shifting issue before the chip thinking the chip would help, but it didn't.

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I definitely dont want to mask the problem by changing the shift characterists on the chip. I would rather fix it properly. I dont know much about transmissions, does the whole tranny have to be removed to change the valve body?

2002 7.3L Excursion Limited 4x4
- 21"/11"/21" Vision X Xmitter Prime light bars (47,000 lumens)
- Edge CS Monitor
- Tymar intake
- Fumoto Quick Drain Valve
- Coolant filter, ELC, 203* T-stat and billet housing
- Riff Raff boots
- PHP Chip (Stock, 80DD, 100Race, Whisper Mode, 80Tow, Smoke Show)
- F350 leafs front and back
- Hellwig rear sway bar, Bilstein 5100's
- LT275/65R20 Durtrac's on 20" King Ranch wheels
- Fred Goeske 2" steel wheel adapters
- Genuine Larry B's Denso starter
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