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I am looking for someone in the Richmond, VA area that is running a 38R with preferably some 160/stock or 160/30 nozzles. I am interested in eventually running a setup like this but would like to experience it first hand (especially the turbo). I want to make sure that I can live with the sound of a 38R. I am seriously considering this or a Brute 66 but am intrigued with the quick spool characteristics of the 38R versus the stock or Brute 66 turbo. I have a straight drive and feel that it will be more enjoyable to drive with a quick spooling turbo. If there is any one out there that is near me I would love check out your ride.

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Not anywhere near your area, but I have a 38r with the WW2 and running 175/80's from PIS. The turbo doesn't sound much different than a stocker with the original WW or WW2. Just a slight whistle. It spools instantly and pulls all the way through the power band that I use. Even on stock injectors, this is the turbo the truck should've came with. I have NO regrets!!

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Not anywhere near your area, but I have a 38r with the WW2 and running 175/80's from PIS. The turbo doesn't sound much different than a stocker with the original WW or WW2. Just a slight whistle. It spools instantly and pulls all the way through the power band that I use. Even on stock injectors, this is the turbo the truck should've came with. I have NO regrets!!
Can't see your sig from phone, do you have pmr's with that setup? I am seriously considering getting the 170/80 from PIS, and then having someone detune them until I can pick up a forged rod motor. I'm not really looking for more than 400 hp at the wheels. The most important thing is quick spool up especially with a stick. I rarely run the truck over 2100 rpms unless I am towing something. Just wish I could find someone in my area that had a setup close to what I am looking at. Thanks again for the info.

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Even on stock injectors, this is the turbo the truck should've came with. I have NO regrets!!
Exactly right on that part....noise on the other hand is a good bit louder than my stocker with a WW2...not that it's a bad thing cause I like the 38R sound myself.

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Can't see your sig from phone, do you have pmr's with that setup? I am seriously considering getting the 170/80 from PIS, and then having someone detune them until I can pick up a forged rod motor. I'm not really looking for more than 400 hp at the wheels. The most important thing is quick spool up especially with a stick. I rarely run the truck over 2100 rpms unless I am towing something. Just wish I could find someone in my area that had a setup close to what I am looking at. Thanks again for the info.

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Yes, I have a PMR motor. 400-425 hp was my end goal. My truck is a daily driver that I tow with regularly. So reliability is key. I feel totally safe with my set up.

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Exactly right on that part....noise on the other hand is a good bit louder than my stocker with a WW2...not that it's a bad thing cause I like the 38R sound myself.
I don't notice much difference in sound between the stock turbo with a WW2 and the 38r with WW2. A very slight more whistle on the 38r, but not much. I do have an AIS though.

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Thanks guys. My plan is to run an ais. I have a feeling this attenuates the sound of the 38r significantly vs the ever popular tymar intake that a lot of people run. I think that I am definitely set on getting the 38r with the WW based on my driving habits and what kind of power band I am looking for. Just need to decide on which injectors to go with (160/30 vs 175/80).

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I don't notice much difference in sound between the stock turbo with a WW2 and the 38r with WW2. A very slight more whistle on the 38r, but not much. I do have an AIS though.
You got me thinking and I did forget one fact on the sound. My brother is the one with the 38R (but exactly the same truck as mine..identical besides the front seat..same color..same year...close on build date). The previous owner did a foil delete on the ic pipes so that may make it louder than it should be. Both of us are running the Tymar style intake. My WW2 doesn't make hardly any more noise than stock until it's above 2k rpm. My brother's 38R makes noise as soon as you touch the go pedal but the extra power down low is well worth the noise if your pulling in stop and go traffic with stock sticks.

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