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Old 01-13-2014, 04:33 AM
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PHP and DP chip

I just got the hydra from php. I had been running a dp prior to it. After I put the php in, I took a joy ride. First off the shifting sucks. Dp's were much firmer and timed better. On 140 extreme the php would accelerate slower then when it shifted it fell on its face. The dp would hold you back the whole time until you let off. The 80 eco on the dp chip is more enjoyable to drive with than 140 on the php!
What is wrong here? I heard many positive reviews on the php.
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All I know is on my E99 my truck feels MUCH better on PHP's tunes vs DP's. Almost no smoke and lower EGT's.

Power levels feel about the same between the various tunes on the highway. I can't comment on shifting as I was auto with DP and now stick with PHP
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:18 AM
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you will have to drive it more with the php your computer is learning the new shift points it will take a while. I put a php phoinex in my truck and it would slam into gears since it was unlockin the tc for 3-4 seconds before locking back up. Had to drive my auto like a stick and let off the fuel for shifts. Talk to php as well they could help you out as well.
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you will have to drive it more with the php your computer is learning the new shift points it will take a while. I put a php phoinex in my truck and it would slam into gears since it was unlockin the tc for 3-4 seconds before locking back up. Had to drive my auto like a stick and let off the fuel for shifts. Talk to php as well they could help you out as well.
The 4r100 has no learning time.

The 5r110 on the 6.0 and 6.4 has a learning time. How you go out and drive it the first time after loading a tune on the newer trucks with TCM's will be logged and it remembers that driving style. The 6R140 in the 6.7 will be the same on learning. So if you go out and hammer down a tow or daily driver tune the TCM will thinks that how you drive it all the time. If you don't want this result drive in the tune how it was designed to be driven in when you are adding tunes to 6.0l or newer truck. Each time you load another tune you will have to drive it again for a time to reset the computer to that driving style.

This is all due to the advancement in the computer technology over the 4r100 and E4OD designs. I will say the 6.7 is a lot faster to reset the TCM.


~Diane

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Well I have the 4R100, so according to this, no learning time.
What explains the shoddy performance?
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Well I have the 4R100, so according to this, no learning time.
What explains the shoddy performance?
Each tuner tunes their own way when it comes to tunes you order right off each site. We are all custom tuners as well. This is when you call and say, "___ is what I want my tranny to do.

Which AD injectors do you have? Size? Your tranny will not be happy if the tunes are not set up to your performance mods.


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Give them a call or PM Jay on here.

I would expect there are some issues due to your 35" tires, that will miss time the shifting some. Also keep in mind that the throttle is much more linear with PHP, Gearhead, No Limit and likes tuning, DP tunes dump A LOT of fueling down low, giving the appearance of more power, when in fact its just tuning tricks that make it feel that way.

If you dont get any help let me know, I will ruffle a few feathers for you!
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Give them a call or PM Jay on here.

I would expect there are some issues due to your 35" tires, that will miss time the shifting some. Also keep in mind that the throttle is much more linear with PHP, Gearhead, No Limit and likes tuning, DP tunes dump A LOT of fueling down low, giving the appearance of more power, when in fact its just tuning tricks that make it feel that way.

If you dont get any help let me know, I will ruffle a few feathers for you!
I e-mailed Jay just before I read your post. I'll see what he says then
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I just got the hydra from php. I had been running a dp prior to it. After I put the php in, I took a joy ride. First off the shifting sucks. Dp's were much firmer and timed better. On 140 extreme the php would accelerate slower then when it shifted it fell on its face. The dp would hold you back the whole time until you let off. The 80 eco on the dp chip is more enjoyable to drive with than 140 on the php!
What is wrong here? I heard many positive reviews on the php.
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Give them a call or PM Jay on here.

I would expect there are some issues due to your 35" tires, that will miss time the shifting some. Also keep in mind that the throttle is much more linear with PHP, Gearhead, No Limit and likes tuning, DP tunes dump A LOT of fueling down low, giving the appearance of more power, when in fact its just tuning tricks that make it feel that way.

If you dont get any help let me know, I will ruffle a few feathers for you!

You can't post without taking a jab at Jody's tuning even though the guy was happy with it. Keeping the converter locked out so you don't lug isn't tricking the ICP or fueling. You don't even know what you're talking about. Communicating what you have and those mods being up to snuff will depend on the tuning outcome. I even said he needed to do call.

Joe it's time you come down off that high horse.
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Each tuner tunes their own way when it comes to tunes you order right off each site. We are all custom tuners as well. This is when you call and say, "___ is what I want my tranny to do.

Which AD injectors do you have? Size? Your tranny will not be happy if the tunes are not set up to your performance mods.


~Diane
They are just stock 140cc AD's from a 2001 truck.
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