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post #1 of 33 Old 12-30-2013, 07:40 AM Thread Starter
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Bought a 99 Bus

Its a 99 Van body bus, SRW 12 passenger or so. We all pitched in to get a rig to take on a ski trip. Runs great, passes all the tests I can think of. I have drained all fluids and refilled w/ synthetic in the drive train and quality oil in the engine.

It has 160K miles and very little blow by.

For our trip up the mountains we were hoping for a little more power out of the old bus. A bunch of tuning options aren't really the goal so unless hydra is cheaper than other options I think we will pass on that. The tune, exhaust, and intake will be the only mods this bus get probably.

Who makes good tunes that are safe for the trans and will give the extra MPG and Power need for a long trip over the mountains?

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That sounds awesome!
But to be totally honest, unless this is to be an ongoing project and driven a fair bit I would suggest saving your money and not buying a chip at all.

The power is nice but you will NEVER pay off the mods with fuel savings.
You would not be smart doing a tuner without some gauges. So that's a few hundred more. You don't need to do exhaust without a chip either.
Also, the trans will always be happier without tunes.
So just do a DIY intake and save the other $1000 for beer and lift tickets

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Thanks for the opinion.

It has EGT, boost and trans temp gauges. I'm not crazy about the big honkin filter mod but we did it (goes against my IAT experiences). Exhaust is just sawed off and side dumped in front of the axle w/ 5" tip.

The primary owner (my buddy went 50% out of 8 of us and is paying fuel round trip and stocking up on foods and stuff, we only paid 2100 total) might want injectors and a turbo next yr but he wont be changing tunes a lot or building his own.

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Dp-tuner can flash the PCM to a safe 60hp economy tune for $110. I keep my truck in the 60hp tune 90% of the time anyway. I don't think I have ever seen over 1050* EGT in that tune. If you are open element filtered and straight piped exhaust then this would be some cheap useful power and it might even help a little on MPG's but I wouldn't count on it.
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Well, against my advice my buddy bought a super chip flash paq model #1855. What results would that give us? After I told him what he could get a flashed PCM for he wouldn't say what he paid for the super chip.

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I have no experience with Super Chips but from what I have read on this forum, the common consensus here is the chip does nothing for the transmission as for tuning. A tune from a custom tuner will adjust shift points, line pressure, torque converter lockup and other parameters pertaining to the transmission which will help prolong the life of the transmission. A lot of people use the superchips but for heavy towing or in your case being loaded all the time(I am thinking your GVRW is much more than a truck) I think a tune from a custom tuner would be more beneficial.
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Ok, so story now is the superchip is for an early 99 Ford truck but it wouldn't load to the bus.

Guy that bought the superchip thinks the bus might be a 98, I know trucks didn't have a 98 bit what about bus/van chassis?

I have the vin and pic of the door sticker. Says 03/99.

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The bus could have a totally different PCM code too.
Might need the find the PCM code and talk to a couple custom tuners to see if they can even do it

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I say throw some big injectors in there, turbo, and some tunes and see what happens.


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The bus could have a totally different PCM code too.
Might need the find the PCM code and talk to a couple custom tuners to see if they can even do it
Good point, is there anyway you can point me to a thread so I can know where to even find the PCM? I assume the PCM code will be labeled on the "chip".

Problem is the guy that is taking ownership of the bus has one of those "know it all" cousins that wants to make the superchip to work, he works in a tire shop so he is obviously an expert on tuning. He just gives me a blank stare when I ask about shift points, egt's, timing, and other factors that will need to be take into account. He usually looks at the box says "we can set it on 75hp performance tune for DD", sounds like a tranny smoker to me!

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