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Pump and pre filter

So I did the harpoon/hutch mod but I need to get a pre filter. Wheres the best place to get one and what?

Also, Im going to be having an injector shop building my sticks to 175/100%. Should I upgrade my pump for these? Ive been thinking for a while about the airdog2 but have heard recently about some issues with them.

What about a regulated return too?

Any thoughts, suggestions?



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You don't actually need a "filter". There's a lot of good ones out there though.

Because when you remove the screens in the tank you leave the pump unprotected from debris entering it, it Needs something to stop that. I had a few Brass/Polycarbonate pre-screens I used when installing KeroSun Monitor heaters (yea, that was some time ago ) and I used one of those. It's a finer screen than what was in the tank, clear to show the First signs of water, and easy to splice-in.



If you spend Big Bucks on performance mods and actually need the full RR (with the removal of the Filter housing and all) then you're gonna need a real filter to replace it. Otherwise, just do the FRX, it has all the benefits of the RR except a huge increase in delivery (which you only really need with a highly modded engine)
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i went here...Wix Filters & NapaGold Filters: FleetFilter Secure Online Store , both filter and base for 25 buks. Not a bad place either ,to stock up on other filters...

OR, just install one of these...Wix 33007 & Napa 3007 Fuel Filter: FleetFilter Secure Online Store

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i went here...Wix Filters & NapaGold Filters: FleetFilter Secure Online Store , both filter and base for 25 buks. Not a bad place either ,to stock up on other filters...

OR, just install one of these...Wix 33007 & Napa 3007 Fuel Filter: FleetFilter Secure Online Store
I was wondering if I could just popban inline in there. So its a 5/16 hose. I might just stop off at AZ and grab one today.



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If you spend Big Bucks on performance mods and actually need the full RR (with the removal of the Filter housing and all) then you're gonna need a real filter to replace it. Otherwise, just do the FRX, it has all the benefits of the RR except a huge increase in delivery (which you only really need with a highly modded engine)
What is the FRX you mentioned?



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It's essentially a RR but using the existing regulator in the filter housing. It accomplishes everything else you want an RR for, at 1/3 the price.

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So I did the harpoon/hutch mod but I need to get a pre filter. Wheres the best place to get one and what?

Also, Im going to be having an injector shop building my sticks to 175/100%. Should I upgrade my pump for these? Ive been thinking for a while about the airdog2 but have heard recently about some issues with them.

What about a regulated return too?

Any thoughts, suggestions?
If you going to upgrade your sticks then upgrading your fuel system is a good idea. A popular filter for a pre-pump filter is the baldwin BF1212. 20 Microns absolute, 93% efficient at stripping water and can flow 300 gph (your 7.3 will require about a tenth of that).

I would avoid Air Dog, their filters are not that great and can be a PIA to get IMHO and the pumps are so-so.

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What is the FRX you mentioned?
FRX is offered by Riff Raff diesel, basically it eliminates the deadhead by tapping into a pair of rail plugs in the head. It still retains the factory fuel bowl and incorporates the fuel pressure regulator shim into it. For stock and small injectors it should have no problem keeping up.

Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? If not I would get one just to keep an eye on things.

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I would at least get rid of the dead head system even if I was planning on keeping my stock injectors, I looked into the AirDog2 as well and decided on going with IDP's Full competition fuel system but I'm planning on getting 300/200's down the line.

If you look at Irate's website they offer a kit for Stock-250cc injectors that consists of a RR and pump/filter setup, I'd consider that.

I'm really impressed with the quality of their kit, hard lines and all. My buddy should have some free time in his shop to help me install mine by the end of August, I just don't have a clean enough place to work.


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