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post #1 of 15 Old 02-27-2008, 04:27 PM Thread Starter
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How much is TOO much?

Alright guys Im planning my new set of mods soon so Ive got the wheels turnin in the ole noggin...

If I do Stage 2 injectors on a hot tune am I asking for trouble with the stock tranny with only a shift kit? Should I do head studs/gaskets anyway???

I will have a open exhaust, Wicked wheel, upgraded wastegate, intake, shift kit.

I dont think I will have a problem but I dont wanna go tearing stuff up, o and I wont be pulling this truck either. Mostly gonna be terrorizing the local traffic

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Bump kinda intersted in the topic of tranny strength

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Bump for Scott... curious to see opinions.

Although, you could always sell the Buick and get an ATS trans
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Alright guys Im planning my new set of mods soon so Ive got the wheels turnin in the ole noggin...

If I do Stage 2 injectors on a hot tune am I asking for trouble with the stock tranny with only a shift kit? Should I do head studs/gaskets anyway???

I will have a open exhaust, Wicked wheel, upgraded wastegate, intake, shift kit.

I dont think I will have a problem but I dont wanna go tearing stuff up, o and I wont be pulling this truck either. Mostly gonna be terrorizing the local traffic
Trans will probably be an issue head studs won't

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ITP REGULATED FUEL SYSTEM
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HIGH FLOW OUTLET
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Trans will probably be an issue head studs won't

I disagree, you start going with bigger stick & a bigger wheel you will wish you had the head studs... Tranny would probably just be a matter of time with that much power like the heads...

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you would have to worry about both eventually... your trans will def go out with that kind of power... skip the injectors and get yourself a good rebuild kit and studs... then your ready for big power....
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well thats the thing... if its going to be a big deal then I will just stay with what I have. Im not ready to do a rebuild on it yet, I think my next upgrade will be the tranny. I was hoping I could get away with the injectors but I dont want to be driving a grenade with a loose pin...

Maybe Ill be seein a cammed out PStroke in the future

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I have stage 2's and I don't have head studs wicked wheel is smaller than stock. Once you get to intake, exhaust, and chip you're done making one mod at a time after that you can't just do one mod with out the supporting one's and expect it to run like it should. You'll need a big wallet

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ITP REGULATED FUEL SYSTEM
AIR DOG FUEL PREP
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6.0 TRANS COOLER
HIGH FLOW OUTLET
NON EBPV PEDESTAL
AIH DELETE W/BOOST
DUAL RELEASE VALVE MAP

JOHN WOODS TRANS

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0-60 BOOST
TRANS TEMP
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With stage 2 injectors and a stockish turbo you do not need studs. Stage 2s with a BB turbo you do not need studs, however it might be good insurance but not needed. Over 38-40psi of boost is where you hit the point of needing studs. There are more trucks running stage 2s out there than you can shake a stick at. It is one of the most common upgrades outside of the chip, intake and exhaust.

The trans is going to need a good valve body put in it, but keep in mind with 400hp, you are going to need a trans build real fast even with a built valve body in it. Tuning will also make a difference. Custom tunes will be needed for the injectors and the tunes will also make trans adjustments for the better.

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Tranny is going to go at stock levels, chip at best... Stage 2's will eat them up.

Studs are not needed until 38-40#'s... just as Stroken said.

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