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Programming for towing mileage

Just bought a 2000 7.3L Excursion to replace my gas V10 that got stolen. I use it almost exclusively to tow a 7000-pound trailer over long distances. Looking to improve the mileage to save some money over the long run. My buddy recommended this: Edge Products| Product , but I've heard there are a lot of opinions on chips/tuners/programmers. I've also heard that a CAI and exhaust won't pay off just for mileage.

What's your opinion?
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Just bought a 2000 7.3L Excursion to replace my gas V10 that got stolen. I use it almost exclusively to tow a 7000-pound trailer over long distances. Looking to improve the mileage to save some money over the long run. My buddy recommended this: Edge Products| Product , but I've heard there are a lot of opinions on chips/tuners/programmers. I've also heard that a CAI and exhaust won't pay off just for mileage.

What's your opinion?
What are you getting now for MPG?

Mileage is an unknown. It depends on your drive style and overall health of the truck. Remember you are not driving a truck right off the showroom floor or a prius...

Just an example: towing 10K on a 700 mile round trip we got 16 mpg in 100* weather and went through some 7-10% grades. Unloaded we get around 18-19 on trips. In town driving you will get less because you are constantly in and out of the throttle.

Do the CAI and Exhaust. CAI will keep dust out and the exhaust will help with EGT's. Always tow by gauges.
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Do not buy an edge tuner of any kind unless you have a 6 speed in it. Edge will eat your automatic tranny especially towing.

If you want a chip go for a TS style chip. Most are a 6 position chip that can have as many as 1 to 6 different tunes on it. They can also be switched on the fly, not really a perk for towing but kinda fun for around town driving. But mostly no wait time removing an old tune and installing a new tune through your OBD port.

Some tunes i would look at are Beans, TW (Tony Wildman), Swamps, PHP, there are others but these are arguably some of the best. These companies tunes should also help your stock tranny last a bit longer.

Ive never got as good of mielage as the guy above my post but it can be done. I hardly see freeways tho and when i do there are a lot of hills involved.

Empty i get average 16 to 17. Towing 12 to 14. But still better than my buddies V10 getting 4 to 6 towing!
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I've got a Ts 6pos on mine now with TW's tunes.
Averaged about 16mpg pulling 6000lbs with the tow/60hp tune (highway @ 65mph.)

Also - the 'older' edge's had issues with trans. The newer Edge's with "Juice with Attitude" are ok to use as they now do trans tuning with their power tunes.
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What are you getting now for MPG?

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Always tow by gauges.
I get almost 20 at 55, going down to 15.5 at 75. All unloaded. The trailer weight varies a lot, so I haven't had a consistent run with it yet. Headed from Minneapolis to Cincinnati in a couple weeks, though, so should get a good baseline then.

Are there some inexpensive gauges I could get to monitor what is going on now before I make the changes
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I get almost 20 at 55, going down to 15.5 at 75. All unloaded. The trailer weight varies a lot, so I haven't had a consistent run with it yet. Headed from Minneapolis to Cincinnati in a couple weeks, though, so should get a good baseline then.

Are there some inexpensive gauges I could get to monitor what is going on now before I make the changes
gauges: http://stealth-automotive.com/index....roduct_id=1533

or you can do the combo i like: http://stealth-automotive.com/index....roduct_id=1856

DP also has a nice all in one unit which is a nice option http://www.dp-tuner.com/featured-pro...reen-7-3l.html
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Hey Raul, thanks for the quick response. Looks like the DP and the Tony Wildman units are the same price. What's the difference between the two?
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Hey Raul, thanks for the quick response. Looks like the DP and the Tony Wildman units are the same price. What's the difference between the two?
honestly the tunes are all roughly the same from most of the top end tuners... so you cant go wrong with either of them.. my personal preference is having the tuner and gauges separate.. im not a big fan of the all in 1 units... if it breaks you lose both your tuning and gauges in 1 shot....

but thats just my opinion.....

-Raul

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honestly the tunes are all roughly the same from most of the top end tuners... so you can go wrong with either of them.. my personal preference is having the tuner and gauges separate.. im not a big fan of the all in 1 units... if it breaks you lose both your tuning and gauges in 1 shot....

but thats just my opinion.....

-Raul
With our INFINITY you do not lose the tuning if the unit crashes. They are all stored on the 8 g SD card which in return you can make a backup of the files on your computer or laptop just in case the unit is stolen or damaged. If a crash occurs we have a recovery file we can send via email. We've already done this a few times and the guys were all back up and running a very short time. If theft occurs we keep a large stock in house and can ship out a new unit quick.

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