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Old 01-25-2008, 07:24 PM
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99 POWERSTROKE Cranks, But NO START

I have be researching and working on my PSD for over a week.

I have a 99 Powerstroke F550.

I was driving when the truck died like it was running out of fuel. I know what this is like because I have done it many times. If there is one thing I know how to do, is how to quickly restart a Powerstroke that ran out of fuel. I refueled the tank and the fuel bowl, cycled the fuel pump, had charged batteries. It started, but the truck would barely move and sounded bad. In park, I could barely get the rpms over 2000. In drive, the truck would crawl and not go up a slight incline. The transmission was rebuilt 1000 miles ago. I had to get it towed back to my garage.

Now, It cranks, but doesn't start.

All fluids have been checked
Batteries are fully charged
Fuses checked
New fuel filter
New Air filter
New CPS
IPR valve inspected and new orings
Fuel is going to fuel bowl
Wait to Start light comes on and shuts off, as usual.
Replaced Fuel with Fresh Fuel
Checked the Fuel shut off switch - It was fine.

Service Engine light comes on occasionally, but no codes come up on a OBD-II Scanner. I thought my (autozone) OBD-II Scanner might have been broken, so I tested it on another vehicle that I purposefully put a fault on, and it read it accurately.

I know that if you crank the engine repeatedly, the high pressure oil reservoir can drain. So I checked it and it is full, right to the top.

When I try to start it, with charged batteries, a little bit of black smoke comes out the tail pipe. It's not like a cold start, it's like there is no fuel getting to the injectors. My cold starts always have white smoke.

I jumped the glow plug relay and I get the same response. But, I don't think the GPR is critical to starting when then engine is in a heated garage. I could be wrong, but I think the computer only activates it when the temp is cold.

I have not checked the fuel pressure, map sensor, or backpressure valve/sensor. But would these cause a no start?

Don't tell me it's the injector pump or injectors, because I don't want to hear it! (Just Kidding).

-Matt
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:05 PM
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an autozone scanner will not pick up our codes. You have to have a high quality code reader like an auto enginuity or a matco scanner. I would check fuel pressure. the back pressure valve and sensor should not cause a no start.

Have you checked your spark plug wires?

















Hehehe. just kidding........


I would also check all your wiring connections too, just to make sure you have all electrical problems checked. definately get your codes read. that will probably tell us where to look first.
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:11 AM
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My first post on a diesel board and someone comes back with sparkplug wires. You had me there for a second.

I will try to find someone that has a better code scanner and get the fuel pressure checked.

Thanks xsracinggt,

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Old 01-26-2008, 09:59 AM
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Glad to help. Hopefully someone will be one here to give you some more insight. by the way!!!

Hehe, gotcha there for a second. Glad I could help you man, and glad you took my joke as it was meant to be. hahaha!
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:54 PM
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No codes came up on the more advanced scanner. I am going to do a fuel pressure test tonight.

A little bit more info:

The truck has 160,000 miles and it is the early model of the 1999 powerstroke (i.e. not 99.5).

Also, I know that this the the wrong thing to do, but If I spray ether in the air intake, the truck will run until the ether is burned up. The more I spray the longer it will run. I'm talking just a few seconds, but you get the idea. I don't want to try this anymore because I don't want to buy a new engine (it does sound good on ether though).

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Old 01-26-2008, 01:00 PM
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Ford Recall on the Crank Shaft Position Sensor

Ironically, today, I got a letter from Ford saying that they are recalling my truck for the CPS. They are going to replace it for free. To bad I already changed it last week.
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Have you checked your uvc harnesss could be your IDM to.No codes is weird with a Light good luck hopefully a tech will have some ideas.
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:59 PM
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Thanks PowerPlant,

I am actually looking into the IDM right now. I heard those rarely go, but I am running out of ideas.

-Matt
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:27 AM
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I got the truck started. But it sounded bad and would only crawl. Couldn't get past 2000 rpm when in park. In drive, very slow (3mph) with no power.

I disconnected the MAP Sensor, and the truck now runs almost normal. It responds to the throttle with a little hesitation, but the truck drives through all the gears and I can tach it out. I reconnect the Map sensor, and the truck dosen't run.

So, I would say that my map sensor is the problem, and i am going to replace it.
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You are still not using the proper scan tool. If you have set the SES light you have a code, period, they don't go away until they are cleared. Don't do anything else, especially either ( Oh my God NO Either!!!) find someone with a SCT programmer or Superchips for our trucks and they will scan your truck. Our trucks are not OBDII compliant because our GVWR exceeds 10K, if you live near Mt Airy, NC I will scan it for you. You have a stored code so before you go replacing parts, read the codes and go from there.
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