injectors or nozzles?

[david1991]

Been looking around for injectors or nozzles, which is better? I was going to keep a mild set up on my pick up but that changed. I don't really wanna spend a lot more but I'm sure if I add injectors or nozzles, I will need a better HPOP, a turbo to go along with it and a clutch looking at a 450 hp south bend. As well as getting my chip redone. That is all I wanna spend tho. I was looking at nozzles that add 25 - 50 hp. They don't say anywhere the cc. With my mods now I imagine I'm pushing around 345ish? Another member said about the same. Adding the things I want would I need anything else to make it reliable? It's my daily driver. All input is appreciated.

[85_305]

If your looking somewhere at injectors that only say hp gains but not the size of the injectors and nozzles, you aren't looking in the right places.

The clutch sounds fine. But you might be maxing that 450hp out w/ injectors.

Stage 1 injectors and GOOD custom tuning will make 400whp on a SD... thats closer to 450crank hp. This will be around 800ft-lbs. That 450hp clutch will be destroyed most likely. You wont need an hpop or turbo w/ stage 1's.

With the crappy chip you have right now, I'd say you are closer to 300-320whp and 650ish ft-lbs to the wheels.

[david1991]

haha php arnt good?

[CowboyCody]

He probably missed the fact that it was a PHP chip... But then again he is a beans lover

[CowboyCody]

how many miles ar on the truck? some new injectors may be in order anyway. otherwise there isnt much you can do to make it more reliable you have the basics covered. possibly get rid of the factory fuel filter set up, they are prone to leaks.

[PHPDiesel]

It doesn't matter one bit who does the tuning for a truck for stock injectors. You will see a MAXIMUM of 300-320 rear wheel horsepower no matter what else is done (and I'm not talking fudged or corrected DYNO numbers; take it to the track). It takes fuel to make power and there is only so much horsepower stock injectors will make.

[david1991]

My pickup has 177k on it. Only had it for about 500 miles now. I appreciate all the feedback but no one has really answered my main question lol. Which are better for a budget and a good 25-50 hp gain? Nozzles or injectors. I know injectors are better but will nozzles do a decent job? What part of the factory fuel filter setup is prone to leaks?

[ken6881]

Look at rosewood injectors probably the best option for budget build

[85_305]

Originally Posted by david1991

haha php arnt good?

Didn't say that at all, but there are better options in my opinion.

Originally Posted by CowboyCody

He probably missed the fact that it was a PHP chip... But then again he is a beans lover

I admit, I'm a huge ******

Originally Posted by PHPDiesel

It doesn't matter one bit who does the tuning for a truck for stock injectors. You will see a MAXIMUM of 300-320 rear wheel horsepower no matter what else is done (and I'm not talking fudged or corrected DYNO numbers; take it to the track). It takes fuel to make power and there is only so much horsepower stock injectors will make.

I've seen dyno's that prove otherwise.... not to get into a pissing match. It's not only fuel, its how you use the fuel.

Originally Posted by david1991

My pickup has 177k on it. Only had it for about 500 miles now. I appreciate all the feedback but no one has really answered my main question lol. Which are better for a budget and a good 25-50 hp gain? Nozzles or injectors. I know injectors are better but will nozzles do a decent job? What part of the factory fuel filter setup is prone to leaks?

I thought I already answered this...

Nozzles on stock injectors wont do ****. These babydick injectors are maxed out very quickly. Get bigger injectors.

Originally Posted by ken6881

Look at rosewood injectors probably the best option for budget build

Like I said. Cant beat rosewoods.

[CowboyCody]

[QUOTE=85_305;3281392]Didn't say that at all, but there are better options in my opinion.



I admit, I'm a huge ******



you are definatly entitled to your opinion, and i am not saying your wrong. I have not personally run any of them so i dont know, but i dont think you have either but i think it is hard to go wrong with any of the custom tuners. it gets to the point where there is only slight differences, and it comes down to a matter of preferance.