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I will just say that I do not care what Beans does; they are over priced. I have heard nothing but good about Beans though. PHP is the Godfather of tuning and started it for our trucks. This does not make him the best, just one of them.
I personally recommend PHP or TW. I have seen great gains moving from DP to PHP.
I ran DP for 4 yrs and always had excessive egts and touchy pedal.
Been running PHP for a good 2 months or so and egt's on standard tunes never went above 1100 WOT. Different story with 250/100 injectors though. Still doing some fine tuning on custom tunes. Will probably do live tuning next yr.
This is what I gather:
DP is very aggressive on tunes and will drop off after a certain point.
TW is a little more aggressive than PHP or basically somewhere in between PHP and DP, but closer to PHP.
PHP standard tunes to me are like a 4 barrel carb. very similar to stock if you are easy on the go pedal, but has all the power you need if you get into it. Much more driveable than DP.
TW can be had for $420 shipped from ct performance
PHP Phoenix is $300 plus shipping.
TW has free reburns, PHP will do free reburns to change standard tunes. You have to pay shipping though for both.
I would think it would be cheaper to stay with your DP, but I like TS style chips more because of the ability to try the various tuners out there.
a few great tuners:
I would try Beans if they weren't so darn expensive. 6 pos chip is well over $500 iirc. I think they told me $250 to reburn an existing ts chip, while TW is only $120ish.
A lot of options, but as the OP asked; I would go TW or PHP over DP. You can also sell your DP and use what you make towards a TS chip of choice.
Thats what I did. I sold my DP tuner & switch for a killer price and used that towards my PHP FU. I was lucky enough that the truck used the same code as me, so no reprogramming was necessary.
Best of luck. You should be happy no matter which way you go. In the end; they are all similar in power; its the curves they use to get there. There is a difference in the way ea write there tunes. It also depends on what style of tuning you like which could help determine what way to go.
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03 F350 7.3L Auto CC LB Dually 410's (LS Rear)315's
PHP/Beans tuned, 250/100 FF inj's, BTS Tranny, Strictly Diesel complete fuel system w/RR & FB Delete, Pius LASB from Irate, Swamps hvhf IDM
Autometer Nexus Guages (TT,FP,BP,EGT), 4"MBRP, DieselSite Coolant filtration system/billet housing/HP X-Over line, Baldwin PA2818(6637) RR Boots, 26 row 6.0 Tranny & PS Cooler, LarryB's Denso Starter