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ATS Housing Vs. Wicked Wheel...or Both?

Since installing my S&B intake I have noticed the turbo surge in my truck getting progressively worse and worse. First only when towing uphill and now to the point when just accelerating uphill without a load.

My question is, which of the 2 common cures for surge is better: ATS Housing or Wicked Wheel? Or Both?

I understand that the ATS housing is significantly more expensive but from what I have read it seems to be more effective than the Wicked Wheel. Is this true? I don't plan to do any further mods besides an MBRP 4" TB exhaust which is on order if that makes a difference between which one would be a better fit for my situation.

Also, I am concerned about the noise of the WW from inside the cab. This truck is my daily driver (100+ daily miles) and I am frequently on the phone talking to customers. Is the ATS housing also going to increase the noise level for the turbo?

Everyones help is GREATLY appreciated.

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This guy didn't have much luck with it. I'm not sure about them all, but I think he ended up modifying it himself.

ATS Compressor Housing=JUNK

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When I had a WW on my stock turbo, it didn't seem much louder than the stock wheel (maybe a slight bit, but really not much at all) My 38R is a whole different story when it comes to noise!

I honestly like the idea of the ATS cover better (although I know there were issues with them like above stated). Surge is when the engine can't consume as much air as the turbo is feeding it. the WW flows less CFM which is why it sometimes cures the surge and sometimes you may still have some. The ported compressor housing can retain your stock wheel and would be easier to install


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Just do a 38r and have a real upgrade
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Just do a 38r and have a real upgrade
I agree. For the price of the ATS housing, you almost halfway there in price for the 38r.

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In my case where all I plan on doing mod-wise is intake (already on) and exhaust, is the 38r really necessary?

I know it is a much better turbo but I don't plan on even tuning the truck and I am just looking to cure the current surge problem. I am just looking for the best value for fixing the problem but I also don't want to overlook quality/longevity. $1,400+ is a steep price tag for the 38r and I would have to continue to live with the surge for another couple months before I could do anything. BUT if it is truly that much better even considering my goals than maybe I should just wait.

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In my case where all I plan on doing mod-wise is intake (already on) and exhaust, is the 38r really necessary?
Im in your boat...

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You shouldn't be getting surge with just an exhaust and intake. Your problem is something else.

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I have read that a decent amount of people seem to notice the surge after the intake and it was never noticeably in my truck until the intake. What are some other common causes? All the intercooler boots look to be in great shape and I don't suspect there to be a boost leak but how would I check to make sure?

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if when it shifts at wide open throttle you hear noise that is not surge
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