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New into tuners and elictronic stuff, can some one tell me a little :)

Hey Guys.


I have just sold my 95 dodge/cummins 12v. And now considering buying excursion 2000 7.3 limited. So i wonder which chip/tuner you do recomend for me.
I tuned my old cummins mechanicly, but this electronic tuning i dont know what to do.
I wonder if in need gauges to monitor egt and boost, or can i get a device that use the original sensors from ford( i assume that the pcm is hooked up to some sensors)
Also, do this tuners program the transmission as well?
And are those programs completely safe for the stock tranny?

I dont want a very expensive tuning, i just considering: tuner, new airfilter, and open up the stock exhaust.

Excuse me for my grammar faults, im from Norway
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Generic tunes like edge and stuff are junk and will damage your tranny. Most people on here run a dp tuner or tony wildman tuner also know as a ts chip. Beans diesel has good tunes to. I run a dp tuner. You have to straight pipe the exhaust ( at least if you don't want a whole system) 6637 intake is what most run and it's cheap. And a egt and tranny temp gauge I's all you need

So before the chip you have to cut you muffler off

6637 intake

And at least a egt gauge

Then you can get a chip



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Generic tunes like edge and stuff are junk and will damage your tranny. Most people on here run a dp tuner or tony wildman tuner also know as a ts chip. Beans diesel has good tunes to. I run a dp tuner. You have to straight pipe the exhaust ( at least if you don't want a whole system) 6637 intake is what most run and it's cheap. And a egt and tranny temp gauge I's all you need

So before the chip you have to cut you muffler off

6637 intake

And at least a egt gauge

Then you can get a chip




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Ok, i have some gauges laying in the garage, its some isspro's. But i want i clean look, can i get any digital screen/kit with the sensors? Where to buy. Have been reading a little about db and php, but do i realy need to wire up egt, i assume that a lot of people here are runnign tuners and can se what they got in max egt at 80hp daily f.example?
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I have no Idea if you can tap into sensors for egt on a 7.3 idk if they even have them.

Under normal driving I see about 500 crushing and when going from a stop light I see 700 max if I'm not driving it hard. I can reach 1100 when I punch it in 120 mode


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First, intake and exhuast. Think you guys called it the BHAF. I put a Walker Big Truck Muffler on my exhuast but you can straight pipe it or whatever you like.
Then gauges or a monitoring solution, definitely. I think the Edge CTS or whatever is what a lot of people do since it can monitor a decent amount of stuff but there aren't as many sensors on a 7.3 as a 6.0. Most just get an EGT, trans (for an auto) and a boost gauge. After that a fuel pressure, high pressure oil pressure (HEUI system, read up if you don't already know what it is cause it's way diff) and other things.
Then get a TS style flip chip and get it tuned by Swamps, Beans, Tyrant, Gearhead, Tony Wildman, PHP, or a good custom tuner.



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Oh yea, there is not EGT probe for a 7.3. Even a 6.0 for that matter.
Boost can be read by the OEM sensor.
Trans can be. I'm wrong. You gotta add a sensor. Easy to do.
HPO pressure can.
Fuel pressure can't.
For an auto trans, I'd get a valve body by either Brian's Truck Shop, Factory Tech, or one other that I don't remember the name of right now. It'll help your shifts and help it last.



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First, intake and exhuast. Think you guys called it the BHAF. I put a Walker Big Truck Muffler on my exhuast but you can straight pipe it or whatever you like.
Then gauges or a monitoring solution, definitely. I think the Edge CTS or whatever is what a lot of people do since it can monitor a decent amount of stuff but there aren't as many sensors on a 7.3 as a 6.0. Most just get an EGT, trans (for an auto) and a boost gauge. After that a fuel pressure, high pressure oil pressure (HEUI system, read up if you don't already know what it is cause it's way diff) and other things.
Then get a TS style flip chip and get it tuned by Swamps, Beans, Tyrant, Gearhead, Tony Wildman, PHP, or a good custom tuner.

Thanks for the welcome BHAF, thats right what filter do u use to bolt direct on?
ok, so i have to wire up the egt :/ i got to buy i new probe, but can this be wiered into the edge cts? and if i understand you right, i can read out boost pres and tranny temp from the stock sensors?
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Oh yea, there is not EGT probe for a 7.3. Even a 6.0 for that matter.
Boost can be read by the OEM sensor.
Trans can be.
HPO pressure can.
Fuel pressure can't.
For an auto trans, I'd get a valve body by either Brian's Truck Shop, Factory Tech, or one other that I don't remember the name of right now. It'll help your shifts and help it last.
ok, so then i need to go with an edge cts to get those oem readings, and buy i new pyroprobe, do you know if the pyro can be wiered into the edge? i dont want to have the cabin full of gauges this time this is gonna be more of a daily driver then the Dodge was Valve body, do i absolutely need it, when the tuners also inc press and shift parameters?
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I use a Baldwin PA2818. You can use the Napa cross number, or the Donaldson, or whatever. The original kit for our BHAF used a Donaldson, and Baldwin shares a lot of filters with them, or so I've heard. There's write ups here, just search for em.
Yes, you have to drill and tap the exhaust manifold for the EGT.
Idk if it's the CTS but it's one that can monitor a lot of stuff at once and display it for you. It can be wired to it.
I was wrong on trans. Gotta add a probe. But it's easy. There is a test port already for it.
Boost I know for sure you can monitor.
HPO pressure there is a sensor for and the edge might can monitor it.

The valve body is not necessary. The tuner can tune for what you have on the truck and what you want.
They do tune the trans very well.
I'd contact them and tell them what you have, what you want, and they can let you know what they can do for you and point you in the right direction.



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If you install one of the BTS valve bodies, you'll want to make sure whoever you buy the tunes from knows that so they will remove the AT pressure increase parameter from the program.
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