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Buying new turbo and injectors today.. need advice!

I have a 2002 f350. Truck pulls a 28k gooseneck about 60 miles twice a week. I have the transmission out right now... so now is the time to change up pipes. Current set up is 38r with 160cc 30% injectors. Has tons of shaft play and wheel is kissing the intake side housing. My injectors are worn out. I will be buying a turbo and injectors today. Talked to swamps and they suggested t4 mount with s369 turbo. 200cc 30% injectors. Will I have egt issues ? Seems like a big injector for pmrs and my towing weight. Anyone running this setup ? Thoughts?
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I'd pass on swamps. And I would pass on 200/30 injectors.

They can't fully empty with a 30% nozzle.

I would get a kc38r and another set of 160/30's.
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Get a hold of the guys at KC Turbos kcturbosinc@gmail.com
I know they can tell you what the best set up for you would be.
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Like I said over on psn. I don't think the 200/30's are too bad. Being a hybrid it will use less oil and will be easier on the hpop. The 30's will have good atomization and help keep the egts down. They should run about the same as your 160/30's in a tow tune. Plus @Chatham036 from php said it was his favorite injector to tune.

My concern was the turbo. I think the s369 is to big. A 364.5 would be better. Or a kc38r turbo so you don't have to swap over to a t4 setup but your at about the same price when you factor in bellowed up pipes. Also @peixinho is coming out with a dual ball bearing 364.5 here soon hopefully.
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Ok,
I already have fairly new bellowed up pipes. I put those in with my 38r. I just got a bad taste after the Garrett 38r. It lasted a whole 10 months! I don't know if Kc turbo will last longer or not. But I know the borg turbos have a more robust center section. Just hoping to get some more longevity!
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did the 38r have a billet wheel installed?

They usually last 200k+ plus miles with good maintenance and not pushed over 40 psi.
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Yes it had a billet wheel installed
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Ya most 38r's that have a billet wheel installed die just like yours did.

In stock form they last a very very long time
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Yes it had a billet wheel installed
Billet wheels are not a good idea on the 38R. They do well on a stock turbo, but the stock cast wheel out-performs them on the 38R. Have also heard of many issues with them prematurely taking the turbo out.

Did you ever run the 38R with the stock cast wheel?

Also, my recommendation for you would be 180/80's and 364.5 or 366 turbo, as I said in your thread on PSN.

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I agree with what everyone else said. A 369 seems a tad big for your goals. Maybe a 364.5 or 366 would be better.

Also 30% nozzles are pretty small for a 205cc injector. But that wont really hurt anything, you just won't empty all the fuel on a normal/safe PW tune.


We are going to debut our new drop in s369 for the 7.3 this weekend at the UCC. Details will be up on our facebook page for anyone interested. We are very excited about it... but it will not be available to the public for a little while longer, we still have some testing to do. If all goes well then we plan to offer a 366 and 363 version very soon.
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