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Old 06-18-2009, 11:02 AM
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Turbo Surge Question?

OK...by the threads I've been reading on here I am pretty sure I just experienced a bit of turbo surge. Am I correct?

I just towed my boat 2300 miles round trip to Florida and back. My boat is an estimated 6K to 7K. When running about 70 mph and pulling a decent grade in high gear, the boost would build up and a few times I would hear like a studdering noise from the turbo. A few times I saw the boost gauge needle flutter ever so slightly. If I would donshift it would go away. When it would happen I would just back off the throttle a bit and it would stop.

If so I am leaning towards the ATS housing. Yeah I've read that the wicked wheel will cure this but housing seems to be an easier and maybe a better fix.

Also as a side note, the most boost I get is 20 psi acording to my gauge. Does that sound about right?

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OK...by the threads I've been reading on here I am pretty sure I just experienced a bit of turbo surge. Am I correct?

I just towed my boat 2300 miles round trip to Florida and back. My boat is an estimated 6K to 7K. When running about 70 mph and pulling a decent grade in high gear, the boost would build up and a few times I would hear like a studdering noise from the turbo. A few times I saw the boost gauge needle flutter ever so slightly. If I would donshift it would go away. When it would happen I would just back off the throttle a bit and it would stop.

If so I am leaning towards the ATS housing. Yeah I've read that the wicked wheel will cure this but housing seems to be an easier and maybe a better fix.

Also as a side note, the most boost I get is 20 psi acording to my gauge. Does that sound about right?

You can see my mods in my signature. Thanks
Yep, that was surge. BAD! I used to have it until i got a WW, it cured it. The housing is considerably more expensive, like 4 or 5 times the cost. I would do the WW first, then if you still have surge, then get the housing. WW cures it in most cases. Also to answer your other question, with just the 80 tunes from jody, 20 PSI is about right.
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I can only agree but also make a point. a WW is a step back in tech that MIGHT x the surge. A ported housing is a leap forward that WILL x the surge, and ATS isnt the only make available. If you go the housing way, dont bother with a WW, keep yer stock wheel. If you do the WW first, then its all you as to if you wanna do the ported housing on top of it.
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I can only agree but also make a point. a WW is a step back in tech that MIGHT x the surge. A ported housing is a leap forward that WILL x the surge, and ATS isnt the only make available. If you go the housing way, dont bother with a WW, keep yer stock wheel. If you do the WW first, then its all you as to if you wanna do the ported housing on top of it.
Tell me what other housing besides the ATS is available?

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Yep, that was surge. BAD! I used to have it until i got a WW, it cured it. The housing is considerably more expensive, like 4 or 5 times the cost. I would do the WW first, then if you still have surge, then get the housing. WW cures it in most cases. Also to answer your other question, with just the 80 tunes from jody, 20 PSI is about right.
how difficult is the WW installation? According to these guys the turbo needs to be removed.

http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...PROD&ProdID=47
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How is a WW a step BACK? The only reason they changed it was to lower noise, if anything the new style wheel is a step back in tech.
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how difficult is the WW installation? According to these guys the turbo needs to be removed.

http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...PROD&ProdID=47
It can be done without removing the turbo. Take the housing off, and hit the wheel with an impact. Marty did a video write up of it. Check that out.
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alright heres my .02 when i got the DP i had really bad surge, got the WW for 70 bucks and watched marty's video a couple of times, 2 hours of burning my hands on a hot turbo totally cured all of it, i would have gotten the housing though if i could have afforded it at the time
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anybody have a like to the video?
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