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Old 03-23-2009, 02:57 PM
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Blown clutch?

So I was pulling into work today, pushed in the clutch to downshift, and the clutch never popped back out. The truck stalled, and luckily I was able to get it started again and towed it with a work truck to the mechanic. I just stopped by, and they weren't sure what was going on yet, but they seem to think it's the clutch because "the fingers appear to all be stuck in." Not really sure exactly what that means, but they said they were going to drop the transmission tomorrow to get a better idea of what is going on. I just want to make sure that I'm not paying for a clutch when it could be a master/slave cylinder, clutch fork, etc. Can anybody give me any guidance to make sure I am not getting screwed? I have had the truck for about a year and a half, and so far I've been able to do all of the wrenching on it so I don't have a repertoire with any mechanics.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:49 PM
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So I was pulling into work today, pushed in the clutch to downshift, and the clutch never popped back out. The truck stalled, and luckily I was able to get it started again and towed it with a work truck to the mechanic. I just stopped by, and they weren't sure what was going on yet, but they seem to think it's the clutch because "the fingers appear to all be stuck in." Not really sure exactly what that means, but they said they were going to drop the transmission tomorrow to get a better idea of what is going on. I just want to make sure that I'm not paying for a clutch when it could be a master/slave cylinder, clutch fork, etc. Can anybody give me any guidance to make sure I am not getting screwed? I have had the truck for about a year and a half, and so far I've been able to do all of the wrenching on it so I don't have a repertoire with any mechanics.
Replace the slave cylinder tube kit. Seen that happen a bunch of times. Use to be pretty common on the ZF 6 speed. Ford came out with an updated tube kit a few years ago because of the issue.
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ditto to the above
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Same as above but I would recommend that if theey are going to yank the tranny you should go ahead and replace the clutch anyway!
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Same as above but I would recommend that if theey are going to yank the tranny you should go ahead and replace the clutch anyway!
True, but they don't have to pull it to replace the tube kit.
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Replace the slave cylinder tube kit. Seen that happen a bunch of times. Use to be pretty common on the ZF 6 speed. Ford came out with an updated tube kit a few years ago because of the issue.
How can you tell if it's actually the clutch or just needs this slave cylinder tube kit? I would appreciate a quick response as they are planning on pulling the tranny in the am, and I sure don't want to pay them to do it if it doesn't need to be done! How much should it cost me to have them pull the tranny? How much is an estimated cost if they have to replace the clutch? Any clutch recommendations? I'm not running a lot of extras-just intake, stock exhuast with a muffler delete, and I'd like to do a programmer soon. Thanks for the help, guys!
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It's the slave assembly. If it were the clutch, you could feel the clutch slipping. Pedal to the floor is the loss of hydraulic motion in the slave. Been there done that, more than once in more than one truck......
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:32 PM
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hey my two cents is to pull the slave and check to see if it working. Just push it in and turn it counter clockwise and it will come right out. No tools needed. I personally had a similar problem. My problem was the little plastic end that clips on to the pedal under the dash broke. It turned out to be a $5 fix. Just offering some simple checks you can do yourself.
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It's the slave assembly. If it were the clutch, you could feel the clutch slipping. Pedal to the floor is the loss of hydraulic motion in the slave. Been there done that, more than once in more than one truck......
From what I've read Ford sells the slave/master cylinders as a unit that are pre-bled. So I should just ask to start by replacing that? Does it make sense when they said "the fingers of the clutch are stuck in?" I have no clue what they mean by that...
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How can you tell if it's actually the clutch or just needs this slave cylinder tube kit? I would appreciate a quick response as they are planning on pulling the tranny in the am, and I sure don't want to pay them to do it if it doesn't need to be done! How much should it cost me to have them pull the tranny? How much is an estimated cost if they have to replace the clutch? Any clutch recommendations? I'm not running a lot of extras-just intake, stock exhuast with a muffler delete, and I'd like to do a programmer soon. Thanks for the help, guys!
I would have the tube kit replaced first anyway. If by chance it is the clutch, you should replace the tube kit anyway. I'll say that I'm 99.9% sure that the tube kit is bad. Not sure what the labor would be to remove trans. Definetely wouldn't go with a stock clutch though if it was bad. Check out Valair or South Bend.
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