Blown clutch? - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 02:57 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
BioStroker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Victor, ID
Posts: 469
Thanks: 15
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Blown clutch?

So I was pulling into work today, pushed in the clutch to downshift, and the clutch never popped back out. The truck stalled, and luckily I was able to get it started again and towed it with a work truck to the mechanic. I just stopped by, and they weren't sure what was going on yet, but they seem to think it's the clutch because "the fingers appear to all be stuck in." Not really sure exactly what that means, but they said they were going to drop the transmission tomorrow to get a better idea of what is going on. I just want to make sure that I'm not paying for a clutch when it could be a master/slave cylinder, clutch fork, etc. Can anybody give me any guidance to make sure I am not getting screwed? I have had the truck for about a year and a half, and so far I've been able to do all of the wrenching on it so I don't have a repertoire with any mechanics.

2000 F350 Crew Cab Short Bed,
AIS Intake/Zoodad, 203 thermostat, Billet Housing
Vegistroke WVO conversion, AIH Delete, Wicked Wheel, TurboMaster Wastegate controller
Pyro/Boost/Tranny Guages
4" Magnaflow Straight Pipe
DP-Tuner F6 80hp Econo, 80hp Tow, Decel, 100hp Performance, 120hp Race
BioStroker is offline  
post #2 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 03:49 PM
Mod Newbie

 
dhanna6powerstroke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bloomington, IN.
Posts: 13,156
Thanks: 6
Thanked 143 Times in 135 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by BioStroker View Post
So I was pulling into work today, pushed in the clutch to downshift, and the clutch never popped back out. The truck stalled, and luckily I was able to get it started again and towed it with a work truck to the mechanic. I just stopped by, and they weren't sure what was going on yet, but they seem to think it's the clutch because "the fingers appear to all be stuck in." Not really sure exactly what that means, but they said they were going to drop the transmission tomorrow to get a better idea of what is going on. I just want to make sure that I'm not paying for a clutch when it could be a master/slave cylinder, clutch fork, etc. Can anybody give me any guidance to make sure I am not getting screwed? I have had the truck for about a year and a half, and so far I've been able to do all of the wrenching on it so I don't have a repertoire with any mechanics.
Replace the slave cylinder tube kit. Seen that happen a bunch of times. Use to be pretty common on the ZF 6 speed. Ford came out with an updated tube kit a few years ago because of the issue.

dhanna6powerstroke is offline  
post #3 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 03:50 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
fire370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Clearwater, KS
Posts: 260
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
ditto to the above
fire370 is offline  
post #4 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 03:57 PM
Viking Heavy Diesel

 
Ryan Rønning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Wasilla, AK
Posts: 20,735
Thanks: 10
Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Same as above but I would recommend that if theey are going to yank the tranny you should go ahead and replace the clutch anyway!

Project Frankenstein


1997 Ford F-350, Dually conversion, Cobra 29 LX CB, 12000 watt converter, All LED lights, TW tunes, 4" DP, Napa Intake, coolant filter, 140cc Injectors and lots of running lights.

Quote:
Originally Posted by XPLOSIV View Post
Thanks. I'll give er a good wackin in the morning.
Ryan Rønning is offline  
post #5 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 04:00 PM
Mod Newbie

 
dhanna6powerstroke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bloomington, IN.
Posts: 13,156
Thanks: 6
Thanked 143 Times in 135 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by RRonning1984 View Post
Same as above but I would recommend that if theey are going to yank the tranny you should go ahead and replace the clutch anyway!
True, but they don't have to pull it to replace the tube kit.

dhanna6powerstroke is offline  
post #6 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
BioStroker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Victor, ID
Posts: 469
Thanks: 15
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhanna6powerstroke View Post
Replace the slave cylinder tube kit. Seen that happen a bunch of times. Use to be pretty common on the ZF 6 speed. Ford came out with an updated tube kit a few years ago because of the issue.
How can you tell if it's actually the clutch or just needs this slave cylinder tube kit? I would appreciate a quick response as they are planning on pulling the tranny in the am, and I sure don't want to pay them to do it if it doesn't need to be done! How much should it cost me to have them pull the tranny? How much is an estimated cost if they have to replace the clutch? Any clutch recommendations? I'm not running a lot of extras-just intake, stock exhuast with a muffler delete, and I'd like to do a programmer soon. Thanks for the help, guys!

2000 F350 Crew Cab Short Bed,
AIS Intake/Zoodad, 203 thermostat, Billet Housing
Vegistroke WVO conversion, AIH Delete, Wicked Wheel, TurboMaster Wastegate controller
Pyro/Boost/Tranny Guages
4" Magnaflow Straight Pipe
DP-Tuner F6 80hp Econo, 80hp Tow, Decel, 100hp Performance, 120hp Race
BioStroker is offline  
post #7 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 05:26 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
fire370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Clearwater, KS
Posts: 260
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
It's the slave assembly. If it were the clutch, you could feel the clutch slipping. Pedal to the floor is the loss of hydraulic motion in the slave. Been there done that, more than once in more than one truck......
fire370 is offline  
post #8 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 05:32 PM
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 19
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
hey my two cents is to pull the slave and check to see if it working. Just push it in and turn it counter clockwise and it will come right out. No tools needed. I personally had a similar problem. My problem was the little plastic end that clips on to the pedal under the dash broke. It turned out to be a $5 fix. Just offering some simple checks you can do yourself.
Grant is offline  
post #9 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
BioStroker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Victor, ID
Posts: 469
Thanks: 15
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by fire370 View Post
It's the slave assembly. If it were the clutch, you could feel the clutch slipping. Pedal to the floor is the loss of hydraulic motion in the slave. Been there done that, more than once in more than one truck......
From what I've read Ford sells the slave/master cylinders as a unit that are pre-bled. So I should just ask to start by replacing that? Does it make sense when they said "the fingers of the clutch are stuck in?" I have no clue what they mean by that...

2000 F350 Crew Cab Short Bed,
AIS Intake/Zoodad, 203 thermostat, Billet Housing
Vegistroke WVO conversion, AIH Delete, Wicked Wheel, TurboMaster Wastegate controller
Pyro/Boost/Tranny Guages
4" Magnaflow Straight Pipe
DP-Tuner F6 80hp Econo, 80hp Tow, Decel, 100hp Performance, 120hp Race
BioStroker is offline  
post #10 of 34 Old 03-23-2009, 05:33 PM
Mod Newbie

 
dhanna6powerstroke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bloomington, IN.
Posts: 13,156
Thanks: 6
Thanked 143 Times in 135 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by BioStroker View Post
How can you tell if it's actually the clutch or just needs this slave cylinder tube kit? I would appreciate a quick response as they are planning on pulling the tranny in the am, and I sure don't want to pay them to do it if it doesn't need to be done! How much should it cost me to have them pull the tranny? How much is an estimated cost if they have to replace the clutch? Any clutch recommendations? I'm not running a lot of extras-just intake, stock exhuast with a muffler delete, and I'd like to do a programmer soon. Thanks for the help, guys!
I would have the tube kit replaced first anyway. If by chance it is the clutch, you should replace the tube kit anyway. I'll say that I'm 99.9% sure that the tube kit is bad. Not sure what the labor would be to remove trans. Definetely wouldn't go with a stock clutch though if it was bad. Check out Valair or South Bend.

dhanna6powerstroke is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome