So where is everyone putting there trans temp sensor, and what are you geting for tem - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

 1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 18 Old 07-02-2014, 10:26 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
700xxmaniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: middleburgh, n.y
Posts: 449
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
So where is everyone putting there trans temp sensor, and what are you geting...

I've seen some people put the temp sensor for there gauge in the pan, test port, and cooler line. Everyone claims there location to be the best. Also I've notice the "average temp" is different for each location, same with the time it take for the temps to rise.

Pan seems to get the lowest temps and slowest reactions in temp temps. I've seen around 130* average, and you can go up a huge hill with out only 10* change in temps and sitting in traffic is hardly noticeable.

The test port (most common and easiest install) is about 20*warmer on average from what I've seen, and temps react faster, like you can see it 30* jump on a large hill and it will slowly climb from sitting in traffic.

Now the cooler line looks like shows the highest average at about 170* after everything's all warmed up on a nice hot day. And u can see temps start to jump as soon as u put it in gear and watch them drop the instant it gose into lock up vice versa.

Now most places I read, if the fluid gets over 240 you gona kill you trans asap. Now seeing these temp differences shows a big point! One running there temp sensor in the oil pan seeing 200* could mean 250*+ on the cooler line. Makes me think where and the recommendations we all read about based off of.

Also I think we should all put our average temps up and sensor location high temp seen and cooler set up to help prove what I'm saying determine the true best set up (location and coolers) for our trucks.

So here we go.

Average 170 on hot days (90*)
Sensor location on the cooler line
Highest I've seen is 230 going up a long slow (in 2nd the whole climb) STEEP dirt road empty. I got a derale aux cooler fan is set to turn on at 185* and a small 12" x12" Hayden cooler both are rated around 30k gcvw I tore the leaking stock cooler out, bts 4r100, synthetic fluid. pic is of the derale aux cooler, I'm waiting on a tru cool cooler to replace the tiny hyden cooler it's besides the derale but is much thiner so it can't been seen to well So where is everyone putting there trans temp sensor, and what are you geting for tem-imageuploadedbyautoguide1404368755.505188.jpg




Sent from AutoGuide.com App

99 ford f-250 crew cab powerstroke
-skyjacker 6'' lift
- 395-70r-16 mickey tomson baja mtz
-sct tune
-stright pipe (vrrrooom)
-cops are in love with the thing

08 TRX700XX
-uni
-primary drive 13t
-pclll
-cp 11:1

01 recon es 250
-kenda 22'' bear claw
-53mph top speed


Last edited by 700xxmaniac; 07-02-2014 at 10:38 PM.
700xxmaniac is offline  
post #2 of 18 Old 07-02-2014, 10:45 PM
DERAIL MOD!!!


 
351fifty's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Canton and kennesaw
Posts: 23,174
Thanks: 34
Thanked 207 Times in 195 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
Mine is usually around 200 after riding around and getting engine to temp

Pulled from the PCM via DP tuner infinity

-Kris-
2011 f150 ecoboost 4x4 323/452 on php dyno 11/16/13
1995 CCLB DRW 324K
2001 CCLB DRW 319K
Dp tuner infinity, exhaust, intake, chipped, tricked, and wrecked


Quote:
Originally Posted by marine5811
The stock downpipe in an OBS is flat because I'm a ginger.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alberta 7.3
Finding a decent woman is like shopping for a used truck. You spend most of your time picking through the money pits, wrecks, and basket cases until you find one that you can tolerate
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJFLASH
Well at least you caught the loose bolts before they cause any damage. Nothing worse than a sloppy hole
351fifty is offline  
post #3 of 18 Old 07-03-2014, 04:51 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
700xxmaniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: middleburgh, n.y
Posts: 449
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Anyone have any idea where the PCM gets it's temp from?


Sent from AutoGuide.com App

99 ford f-250 crew cab powerstroke
-skyjacker 6'' lift
- 395-70r-16 mickey tomson baja mtz
-sct tune
-stright pipe (vrrrooom)
-cops are in love with the thing

08 TRX700XX
-uni
-primary drive 13t
-pclll
-cp 11:1

01 recon es 250
-kenda 22'' bear claw
-53mph top speed

700xxmaniac is offline  
post #4 of 18 Old 07-03-2014, 05:41 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
scagle1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,342
Thanks: 13
Thanked 53 Times in 50 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
PCM reads off the solenoid pack in the valve body. According to the Ford motor transmission guru ( Mark Kovalsky - find him on the nation ) there is no one best place to read it as all areas are going to be different based off the spot your measuring and depending where in line it's being read.
Curious , Why not just go with a 6.0 cooler like your tranny builder suggest, recommends , pushes at build time ?
Mine runs 140-150 normally. Was seeing 190-200 when tranny was new and it was " breaking in " and got concerned , Brian shrugged it off and said roll with it. I have to hook up AE to monitor as I don't do anything really requiring or necessitating a tranny gauge so my temps are PCM based and on the occasion I drag the laptop out to have a looksy while driving.

Sold 01 350 6" on 37's and mild mods, 00 X 4" on 35's, 02 f350 4" 35's modded from fan to drive shaft, ridin the 03 with nose conversion with 125k and counting upwards slowly.
Never had CNC's poo on any of it, never will.

Last edited by scagle1; 07-03-2014 at 06:02 AM.
scagle1 is offline  
post #5 of 18 Old 07-03-2014, 05:50 AM
Premium Member
 
dannanw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Colorado
Posts: 5,342
Thanks: 8
Thanked 72 Times in 65 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by scagle1 View Post
Why not just go with a 6.0 cooler like your tranny builder suggest, recommends , pushes at build time ?


thats what I run and only have seen 185 once when pulling my skid up a mountain pass.

What this nation needs is cleaner thoughts and dirtier fingernails...
dannanw is offline  
post #6 of 18 Old 07-03-2014, 06:04 AM
Behavior Modificationist

 
AgTires4295's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 1,455
Thanks: 14
Thanked 54 Times in 46 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I have my gauge reading from the test port. I generally see 175-185 after the truck is up to operating temps (I run a Tru-Cool remote external bypass which slowly opens up around 180). I use the Torque app which mirrors what the PCM sees to monitor cooler efficiency. When the test port reads 175-185, the PCM is reading around 195-203.

I have yet to see it run over 203 this summer. This is unloaded, stop/go traffic in Fredericksburg, VA at it's worst with around 90 degrees ambient temperature and me romping on it to get through town.


2001 7.3L
Pro Comp 6.5" Lift
Pro Comp 16x10 Alloys
35x12.5 Nitto Mud Grapplers
Sky Jacker Hydro 7000 Steering Stabilizers
K&N CAI JUNKED For A 6637
Straight Piped Dual 4"
Jasper 4R100 (Rebuilt in '05)
Tru-Cool Max
Dieselsite Coolant/Trans Filters
ISSPRO EV2 (Boost, EGT, Trans)
Centramatics
EBPV Switch
'07 Headlight Conversion
Foil Delete
Zoodad
Monitoring with Torque
AgTires4295 is offline  
post #7 of 18 Old 07-03-2014, 07:52 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Jerrybizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Meridian, Idaho
Posts: 345
Thanks: 18
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I'm monitoring my temps through torque app and it stays under/around 180 with enough airflow and my tru cool cooler. Which I just installed so if there is a break in period as said above that would be great. Will always take cooler. I towed my 8000 pound setup down a 23 mile dirt road to camp and there are slow steep switchbacks, going 10-15 I heated all the way up to 230. I pulled over and let it cool down. Was a bit frustrated as this was the first trip with new cooler. I realized without airflow no cooler will keep you cool. This is not my normal camping spot so not overly concerned.

01 f250CCSB, 285/75/16 GY duratracs, 4 inch diamond eye straight pipe, riff raff 6637, php Phoenix chip, tru-cool, riffraff billet wheel, isspro EGT gauge and torque app.
Jerrybizzle is offline  
post #8 of 18 Old 07-03-2014, 07:53 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
heisman01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: cincinnati
Posts: 776
Thanks: 6
Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 49 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I run mine from the test port and absolutely beating on my truck it doesn't go over 160

DD- 11 6.7 scsb: sct4 gearhead tunes, 4" dpb axle dump exhaust, 2.5 level, fox shocks, no limit egr delete, no limit stage 2 intake, STT PRO 295/65r20, black fuel couplers

sold- 00 7.3 modded to the end.
heisman01 is offline  
post #9 of 18 Old 07-03-2014, 07:56 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
BryceB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,613
Thanks: 36
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I'm pulling from the PCM via Scangauge II and Test Port.
the PCM varies from 5-15 degs over the gauge in the test port.
I run normally 50-65 over the temp on the lie-o-meter (overhead computer) when empty.
I hooked up my Travel Trailer the other day (15200 GCW) and the highest I hit was 75deg over according to the test port gauge (170deg trans temp with max temp of 95deg over a 30+mile/45min drive).

My truck has 209000miles with a Reman Ford HD4R100 that has about 24000 miles and is now with a 26row 6.0 cooler (upgraded from the 13row cooler Ford put in with the HD4R100).


2001 Ford F-250 SD CCSB 7.3 PSD - AIS Intake, Zoodad,
MBRP 4" XP Series Exhaust w/ Muffler, HD4R100, 26 row Trans Cooler, Fumoto Valve,
285/75R16E BFG AT KO, Pioneer AVIC-Z130BT Nav, BOYO VLT-422C Back Up Camera,
Scangauge II, Glowshift 3 Gauge Pod (EGT,TFT,Boost), PHP FU Chip, Huskyliners, Huskyliner Mud Flaps, Warn Premium Hubs, Riffraff Boots/Clamps/inserts
Dyno'd at Mo's Speed Shop 11/3/12 - 307rwhp / 651rw ft-lbs <<<--- On PHP 120Race tune
BryceB is offline  
post #10 of 18 Old 07-03-2014, 07:59 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
BryceB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,613
Thanks: 36
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by heisman01 View Post
I run mine from the test port and absolutely beating on my truck it doesn't go over 160
Is that empty and what is the outside air temp?
since these transmission are not thermostatically controlled, ambient air temps greatly impact them. for instance, Min will run 110-130 in the winter and 150-160 in the summer.. temps will vary 70-80 deg or more.


2001 Ford F-250 SD CCSB 7.3 PSD - AIS Intake, Zoodad,
MBRP 4" XP Series Exhaust w/ Muffler, HD4R100, 26 row Trans Cooler, Fumoto Valve,
285/75R16E BFG AT KO, Pioneer AVIC-Z130BT Nav, BOYO VLT-422C Back Up Camera,
Scangauge II, Glowshift 3 Gauge Pod (EGT,TFT,Boost), PHP FU Chip, Huskyliners, Huskyliner Mud Flaps, Warn Premium Hubs, Riffraff Boots/Clamps/inserts
Dyno'd at Mo's Speed Shop 11/3/12 - 307rwhp / 651rw ft-lbs <<<--- On PHP 120Race tune
BryceB is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome