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Old 02-11-2014, 10:33 AM
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ESOF to Floor Handle Swap

tried searching existing threads and didnt find anyone who swapped from esof to 4x4 on the floor. i will swap the hubs to an aftermarket brand- NOT WARN. I see the plastic bolt in cover that covers the existing handle hole. will a handle/mounting hardware from a salvage truck be a bolt in swap? i can cap all of the vacuum lines to keep the defrost flapper option working.
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Its a totally different transfer case and you will also need to figure out the wiring.
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It's not a totally different transfer case. There are differences in the shifting of the case but there are actually almost identical cases. You would need to switch cases though. There has been talk of trying to convert an electric case to a manual one but I haven't heard anyone succeed doing it. At the price of the cases you'd be well off to buy a manual one install it and sell yours.

There isn't much wiring to figure out. Just get the wiring harness for the manual transfer case and replace the esof harness then remove the switch from the dash. I think I even have a harness here for a manual transfer case I would sell you for cheap. I have a manual case that functions fine but has a crack from an accident that caused an oil leak that I would sell you for cheap as well.

But bottom line is, find a manual case and swap it out.
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Everything I own has a manual T/C (Jeep & Zuk) besides my '02 F-250.

Is this style T/C really problematic ??

Is it affected by cold temps, or what ??
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It's not a totally different transfer case. There are differences in the shifting of the case but there are actually almost identical cases. You would need to switch cases though. There has been talk of trying to convert an electric case to a manual one but I haven't heard anyone succeed doing it. At the price of the cases you'd be well off to buy a manual one install it and sell yours.

There isn't much wiring to figure out. Just get the wiring harness for the manual transfer case and replace the esof harness then remove the switch from the dash. I think I even have a harness here for a manual transfer case I would sell you for cheap. I have a manual case that functions fine but has a crack from an accident that caused an oil leak that I would sell you for cheap as well.

But bottom line is, find a manual case and swap it out.
It IS a completely different T-case... Thats why they have DIFFERENT part numbers...

You can not convert an auto one to manual, you have to swap it out with a manual one.
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I guess we can agree to disagree. Of course they have two different parts numbers, they aren't identical but all the components aside from the shifting mechanisms are the same. The housings are even the same castings, the chains and sprockets are the same, the inputs and outputs are the same

To say they are "different" is correct but "completely different" just isn't correct. I would be willing to bet I could convert one from electronic to manual but at the price of the cases on the used market it just doesn't make sense.

On a side note, it sure does seem like you are good at making friends around here.
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I guess we can agree to disagree. Of course they have two different parts numbers, they aren't identical but all the components aside from the shifting mechanisms are the same. The housings are even the same castings, the chains and sprockets are the same, the inputs and outputs are the same

To say they are "different" is correct but "completely different" just isn't correct. I would be willing to bet I could convert one from electronic to manual but at the price of the cases on the used market it just doesn't make sense.

On a side note, it sure does seem like you are good at making friends around here.
I could care less about making friends on line... I dont come to these websites to make friends I will never meet...

The case internals are different, there is no neutral setting on the electric case, which is the main reason its near imposable to convert one from electric to manual...
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I could care less about making friends on line... I dont come to these websites to make friends I will never meet...

The case internals are different, there is no neutral setting on the electric case, which is the main reason its near imposable to convert one from electric to manual...
agreed...they're similar but diffrent and as far as the op is concerned the answer is that they're compleatly diffrent...
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The best way to convert to manual is to swap in an NV-271 transfer case, it would be a bolt in swap.

But you can use a factory floor shifter and fabricate some of the linkage to fit your NV-273 transfer case, it will take some custom work, and you won't have a neutral position.
Here is info about what needs to be done: esof elimination build - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - pictures are at the end of the thread!
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Everything I own has a manual T/C (Jeep & Zuk) besides my '02 F-250.

Is this style T/C really problematic ??

Is it affected by cold temps, or what ??
they are not problematic... biggest problem is in the actual hub actuation, but you can always manually lock them in
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