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Fuel bowl not filling up

So I've been diagnosing a no start issue for awhile now (been driving my jeep)
No codes
Hpop fills
New CPS
New IPR
Riffraff fpx with gold spring (65psi IIRC)
Tried starting with and without ICP plugged in
Ohm'ed the gp
Gpr good starter and batteries good
New fuel filters (in bowl and new one for my strictly diesel prep pump filter water seperate / hutch mod
Added diesel 911
Had the block heater plugged in over night
Then I went to drain the new pre pump fuel filter again just by chance the fuel is really bad and the filter had no fuel in it. Wasn't filling up
Then I drained the fuel bowl and jumped in and cranked it...
The fuel bowl didn't fill up nor the pre pump filter

So am I correct in thinking the fuel pump died completely

I just ordered my Schrader valve and are acquiring necessary parts to check my fuel pressure, I've been thinking its a fuel issue then with today's knowledge of nothing filling with fuel, should I just order a new pump?

Anything I'm over looking?

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You have over 1/4 tank of diesel in it?

My brother ran my truck out of diesel one day and couldn't get the fuel system to prime itself. He ended up using compressed air into the tank to get it to prime
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he did in tank mods so the fuel line should be close to the bottom of the tank?

do you hear the fuel pump at all when you turn the key on? its on the frame rail under your seat.

check the fuse for the pump first.

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You can access the pump fairly easily.... stick your ear by it or put a finger on it and see if its running, probably need a helper to turn the key.

It's better than buying a new pump before you need it.

If its not turning on, get your voltmeter and make sure it's getting the power to turn on (it uses a terminal lug and nut)

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Another reason why the gauge set up on these trucks should include a fuel pressure gauge...

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You have over 1/4 tank of diesel in it?
Yup 1/2 tank

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You can access the pump fairly easily.... stick your ear by it or put a finger on it and see if its running, probably need a helper to turn the key.

It's better than buying a new pump before you need it.

If its not turning on, get your voltmeter and make sure it's getting the power to turn on (it uses a terminal lug and nut)
I'll check the fuse when I get home, then I'll have my wife turn the key so I can check the pump to hear if it turns on, otherwise I'll grab the voltmeter then ill report back

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Update,
All fuses good, had my wife turn the key on and I'm getting power to the fuel pump. I checked the initeria switch that's in the passenger side kick panel and it wasn't tripped
I can hear the fuel pump but it sounded weak so I bought a new one from strictly diesel - new Bosch
Replaced it and the fuel bowl still isn't filling up, as stated above all filters new, hutch mod done
What am I missing here.....

One thing I'll say is the day before the problems started I installed riffraff fpx and hpx but after I installed those I drove it that whole day for 300 miles without a problem then the next day the problem started of it choking and dying - I used the black spring outta the fpx iirc it was the 65psi spring iirc

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So you have a blockage... Tank pickup probably I mean the pump is running, and your ore pump isn't filling up so its something between the prepump filter and the fuel tank

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You have the top Off the fuel bowl and the Filter Out when you're checking this?

The filter has a spring-loaded platform it sits on and, when installed, pushes down on. Without a filter in there to push the platform down there is a mechanism that blocks fuel from entering the housing (so you don't run without one). It doesn't always work as it should but, maybe yours IS
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