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Old 10-04-2008, 08:41 PM
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Long road trip prep work

Going to start working on my truck and getting it ready to go across the country. Im making an 1800 mile trip from TN to AZ in 2 days. I will be pulling a loaded 6x12 tandem enclosed trailed loaded with all my crap.

Lately I have been having some very high Trans temps for driving unloaded. When I first bought the truck I couldn't get it over 140. Now Im hitting 190 in about 17 miles and holding that steady most of the time but sometimes it will get up to 220-240. Im nervous about pullin this trailer with it doing this. So Im going to flush the trans and take the trans cooler out and clean it up real good. I would put a 6.0 trans cooler in it but I don't have the 150 bucks to spare right now. I have had been told differant things about which trans fluid I need to run. So what do I need to put in it?

Second, I had alot of oil saturating my IC Boots at the IC so I pulled those off and cleaned those really well. Can I pull the IC and flush it out with something to get rid of any excess oil?

I am going to do the CCV mod, don't know why I have waited so long to do this, at the same time.

Also when I pulled my IC tubes out to clean the boots the one on the passenger side has some deep rub marks in it from rubbing on the wire loom over the past 10 years. I am thinking about rapping them in Header wrap to help stop this from continuing. As far as I can see there are no holes.

I am going to change the the diff fluids as well so what is a good weight to go with?

I am going to install hawk brake pads as well.

I am considering flushing the coolant system and install a coolant filter in the process. I have everything I need for this except for a filter that will work for a filter and a bracket to mount it. Anybody have a write up on this?

Of course I will be changing the oil, rotating and balancing the tires and making sure the alignment is within spec.

Do I seem like I have everything covered or am I missing something? Thanks GUys.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:19 AM
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Going to start working on my truck and getting it ready to go across the country. Im making an 1800 mile trip from TN to AZ in 2 days. I will be pulling a loaded 6x12 tandem enclosed trailed loaded with all my crap.
Deep breath here we go!!

Lately I have been having some very high Trans temps for driving unloaded. When I first bought the truck I couldn't get it over 140. Now Im hitting 190 in about 17 miles and holding that steady most of the time but sometimes it will get up to 220-240. Im nervous about pullin this trailer with it doing this. So Im going to flush the trans and take the trans cooler out and clean it up real good. I would put a 6.0 trans cooler in it but I don't have the 150 bucks to spare right now. I have had been told differant things about which trans fluid I need to run. So what do I need to put in it?

You have a problem!!! Don't even think of making this trip until you get it fixed!! I'm not joking!! If you are getting to 190 in 17 min my guess is your bypass line is open, meaning the valve is bad. I just diagnosed the same problem on another members truck. The bypass is a short line that runs between the output line and the input line on the passenger side of the trans. The valve works on backpressure, so if there is a blockage in the coolers it will open the valve and the fluid bypasses the cooler and goes directly back into the trans. Your trans holds 4 1/2 + gal of ATF there is no way to heat that much fluid that fast unless the bypass is open. They are known to go bad. Dieselsite.com sells a replacement and a kit to elimiate it, but I don't suggest that!! To make sure this is the problem get the trans up to normal temp and simply grab the bypass line, if it is hot the valve is open and needs to be replaced. As far as trans fluid the only fluid that should go into a 4R100 is Mercon/Dextron III, your manual will validate this. I know Ferd is now saying Mercon V is okay, this is because the 4R100 are mainly out of warranty and will be by the time damage is done to the seals from using the wrong fluid. Some claim the Mercon V was reformulated but this isn't true and has never been proven. The bad news is Mercon/Dextron III stopped being made in June of 2007, when the supply is gone, it's gone. I bought 4 cases from Napa.

Second, I had alot of oil saturating my IC Boots at the IC so I pulled those off and cleaned those really well. Can I pull the IC and flush it out with something to get rid of any excess oil?

I am going to do the CCV mod, don't know why I have waited so long to do this, at the same time.

The CCV mod should be done to all PSD's to eliminate this problem. Clean them out real good with a cleaner/degreaser like simple green. I would soak them in it as it can be difficult to get them to reseal after they have been removed. When you're ready to do the CCV mod contact me for more info on how to do it right

Also when I pulled my IC tubes out to clean the boots the one on the passenger side has some deep rub marks in it from rubbing on the wire loom over the past 10 years. I am thinking about rapping them in Header wrap to help stop this from continuing. As far as I can see there are no holes.

It would be better to replace them, even the slightest hole can cause serious boost losses

I am going to change the the diff fluids as well so what is a good weight to go with?

All depends on the diffs you have. Look in the owners manual. If you have LS you will need to add the modifier. Don't add the 8 oz that Ford requires, add three-four and then drive in some tight figure eights, if you have any chatter add one oz at a time until the chatter is gone. This is why Ferds LS never worked right, I used only 4 oz of the modifier and my LS works awesome!!

I am going to install hawk brake pads as well.

Hawks LTS are good pads, don't use the extreme duty pads though. Friction Performance pads from AZ are also good pads. If it has been more than 2 years since your last brake fluid flush you need to do this as well. Three quarts should flush the entire system.

I am considering flushing the coolant system and install a coolant filter in the process. I have everything I need for this except for a filter that will work for a filter and a bracket to mount it. Anybody have a write up on this?

Napa sells the WIX #4070 Coolant filter for under $5, I would mount the filter mount down behind the drivers front tire, there is a hole there that it will fit perfect in and is well protected. You need to use two valves for when you change the filter, I used the gas ball valves and I don't loose a drop. I am working on putting together some coolant filter kits so if you have any ? just ask. For coolant use the Fleetrite ELC coolant, no need to check SCA's for three years or 300K, no other coolant would go in my truck.

Of course I will be changing the oil, rotating and balancing the tires and making sure the alignment is within spec.

Do I seem like I have everything covered or am I missing something? Thanks GUys.
[color="red"]Lube Job on the front end, wiper blades, check all hoses and belt and have a spare!! You have some work to do before you are ready for this trip. PM me with any ?
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Old 10-05-2008, 01:51 PM
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Thank. I had to make you work a little bit heh. I know I have a LS in the rear so I need to go get the modifier from the dealer right? Thanks
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:13 PM
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No Napa sells it, buy two 4oz tubes, but you will probably use only one. Have you felt that bypass line yet? Trust me and don't tow anything until you get the bypass fixed or you will be getting a new trans part way through your trip!!

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Old 10-05-2008, 02:28 PM
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No I haven't gotten a chance yet. I'm going to check it this afternoon.
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:37 PM
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I betcha it's hot!!

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Old 10-05-2008, 07:28 PM
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Well you were right it is bad. Ill be replacing it this coming weekend. What are your thoughts on flushing the IC? What can I use that will get any crap thats in it out?
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:30 AM
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In all honesty don't worry about the IC right now. It isn't going to hurt anything, it's just a mess!! Wait until you are ready to do the CCV Mod and then pull everything out at once, clean it, and then put it all back and install the CCV Mod. Did you receive the info I sent you on the CCV Mod? Cleaning the IC isn't going to help if you leave the CCV dumping into it, and dumping a hose to atmosphere isn't the right way of doing the CCV Mod and can be more of a mess than they way Ferd planned it. You can also have problems with the boots resealing after you remove them. You don't want to be blowing hoses every time you hit a grade!! A trick is to spray the inside of the hoses and plumbing, wait for it to get tacky and then assemble, this will help keep things together. But in all honesty I wouldn't worry about it until you are ready to do the CCV mod.
I knew your bypass was shot, that's two members in the last week with the same problems, maybe we are going to have a run on bypass lines. Be glad you caught that now or it would have, not maybe, it would have cost you a trans within the first five hundred miles of your trip!! If I didn't send you the CCV Mod info PM me.

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Old 10-06-2008, 06:44 AM
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good luck getting ready and on the trip
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:39 AM
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Dont forget to have a bunch of tools with you under the seat or some place easy to get to. Nothing is worse then being stuck on the side of the road wishing you had a screw driver or a xx size socket! o and a flash light!

if and when you can, I would suggest you get a 6.0 cooler. Got mine on craigslist for $50 bucks. I got lucky. or a cooler from diesel site for 120 ish when you order that bypass valve

and Nchornets ccv mod is sweet. I have it on my truck and I would do it again if I got another 7.3!
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