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2WD: Swap front coils for '05 up 4WD coils?

As the title says, has anybody tried to swap the front coils from an '05 up 4WD into an '01 2WD? To get a higher, level ride height.

The spring bucket is apparently the same based on 2wd to 4wd swap threads.

The springs look similar, but I can't find specs - obviously they carry the same weight.

My '01 2WD SBCC 7.3 has 220,000 miles and has a pretty strong rake due to sagged front springs. I figure if I'm going to go to the trouble of swapping them, might as well make it level, maybe lift the rear a bit with blocks or whatever while I'm at it.

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Subscribed. I have a 2wd too and want it more level. I went to take out the rear blocks but it didn't have any so there goes that! Budget is a no go so I need something free to do or very very cheap


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I've been able to compare the two springs and trucks in a salvage yard. The '05 spring fits into the '01 spring pocket after removing the rubber isolator. However, it isn't as easy as a direct swap. Some modifying is required.

The springs appear to be the same on on the lower end. However, they are different on the top end. The '05+ 4WD springs are tangential on top, where the '01 has a bend, not quite a pigtail, that is held in place by the spring retainer clip.

The difference is due to the shape of the spring pocket.

'01 spring



'05 spring - not the same view, but you can tell what's different



The difference is due to the depth of the spring pocket and how the springs mount. The '01 using a spring retainer clip, the '05 using a longer sleeve that the spring slides around.

I THINK, that that 05 spring can be immersed in water up to the last coil and then a small spot can be carefully heated to put a bend in it to fit the '01 spring pocket. The water bath SHOULD protect the spring from over heating, while allowing localized heating where I need it.

Probably going to try this in the next couple of weeks.

Compressed, my '01 spring is 12.5" tall.

Compressed, the '05 spring is 16" tall.

The lift SHOULD 3.5" over the sagged stock springs currently on my truck. Guessing that is about 2" over stock height.

That SHOULD be within the adjustment capabilities of an aftermarket camber adjustment kit.

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Awesome! Please get this going and done so we know it works and can do it too! Lol


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I'm gonna subscribe to this thread, but i don't think it will work...

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Been wanting to know this for a while. Not a ton of JY's around here to look into.

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Bought the 4x4 springs today - Diesel F350, heavier front axle rating than my truck, don't recall the numbers off the top of my head, but it was "more"

Going to borrow the torch set from work tomorrow. Might be able to give this a shot over the weekend.

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Bought the 4x4 springs today - Diesel F350, heavier front axle rating than my truck, don't recall the numbers off the top of my head, but it was "more"

Going to borrow the torch set from work tomorrow. Might be able to give this a shot over the weekend.

Sweet let us know Brotha! Good luck


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im interested as well


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Learned a little on Saturday about this mod:
  1. Bottom of coil mounts perfectly - no issue
  2. Top of coil fits, but isn't held in place because of the different wind on the last coil - no surprise there
  3. The spring as-is is WAY too tall - after installing it gave a 5.5" lift over the stock, sagged spring
  4. There are 8 active coils on my 16" tall, sagged spring
  5. There are 11 active coils on the 22" tall, used 4wd spring

I think this means I should trim coils until I get the ride height I want. Trying to go from 35.5" fender height to 39" - 0.5"-1" sag + 2" leveling lift.

Also, the bending with heat will work, just have to find a way to get the right shape without overheating the spring....

The "Banger Mod" is still in the works, but it will work. Maybe...

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