new to this site, have a question about HHO (brown gas)

[Clay Henry]

The principle behind this is volume produced versus volume consummed.
In a truck that has a displacement of 7.3 liters, you would have to build several of these "cells" to power the engine 100%...probably have to fill the entire bed with them. However if you do with with a small 2-3 liter car, you could almost build enough cells to power it 100%
So in these large fuel sucking trucks a 2 cell setup will add extra fuel and when injected, the pcm will defuel at the injectors and use less diesel fuel because its not needed. Thus you will see a rise in your fuel milage. a two cell setup is the largest i have seen that will fit under the hood on a PSD.
Theres a complete thread with soem good pics over in the Alternative Fuels forum section.

[TXbroker]

Originally Posted by CHenry

The principle behind this is volume produced versus volume consummed.
In a truck that has a displacement of 7.3 liters, you would have to build several of these "cells" to power the engine 100%...probably have to fill the entire bed with them. However if you do with with a small 2-3 liter car, you could almost build enough cells to power it 100%
So in these large fuel sucking trucks a 2 cell setup will add extra fuel and when injected, the pcm will defuel at the injectors and use less diesel fuel because its not needed. Thus you will see a rise in your fuel milage. a two cell setup is the largest i have seen that will fit under the hood on a PSD.
Theres a complete thread with soem good pics over in the Alternative Fuels forum section.

Clay, you've phisically seen this in action?

[Clay Henry]

yeah, a buddy of mine was experimenting with making his own set up...he paid 20 bucks for some plans on the net and he made gas...just not a large volume of it.
This isn't anything new really, the idea of running hydrogen cars started long ago but the problem wat the cells for producing enough volume of HHO would be to large to carry on board the car. These little mason jar kits produce small quantities of hho and it will aid in fueling your engine.
Toyota i think it is ...or maybe honda...came out with a new Hydrogen car recently but it has a tank on it that you still have to pull up to a pump and fill. There next step is to build a network of pumps. around the country. This is a true 0 emission car...only water vapor comes out the tailpipe so you literally can breath the exaust without harm.
And if you wreck it, it will go up like a Zeplin...

[montanamike]

yeah i dont know, but i know you can get the plans on internet and make it yourself, its realy easy if your a do it yourself type guy. i thought the fact that an entire township put all thier city vehicles on it spole volumes, but im gona google mythbusters and see if they did debunk it, if they did, itd be on there.

[montanamike]

YouTube - HHO Mythbusters Explained
heres the testfrom mythbusters. i dont know what that means. but they didnt do it the way it was explained to me. they didnt use baking soda in the mix ect..

judge for yourself. and google it a little. id realy like to know.

ps. also on mythbusters they tried to use 100% hydrogen, with no gas. the idea behind what im talking about is adding a little hho to yoru already running vehicle ( on gas or diesel) so it can up your milage, you still need fuel, just less of it.

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Last edited by montanamike : 08-04-2008 at 05:36 PM.

[alabamafrog]

I got 4 Mason jar units I built myself for less than $40 total. I haven't gotten around to putting it on the truck yet, still waiting on TW to send my chip back from the 3rd reburn and then I gotta get a good baseline mpg with the new chip before installing the HHO unit.

I didn’t buy no plans, just looked at pictures on the net and made mine, pretty cheap and easy to do. Each of my jars pull about 8 amps and the amps can be varied depending on the amount of baking soda or lye I put in the water. The gas produced is very flammable, don’t ask how I know.

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Last edited by alabamafrog : 08-04-2008 at 07:51 PM.

[outlaw07]

I think the HHO is a red herring. A normal alternator will never produce more that about 1.5 HP. It take about 2.5 time the amount of energy to crack water as you get when you burn hydrogen (thats why water is so good at putting out fires) So the best you can hope for i about .5 HP. out of the system. I figure that when the vacuum on the engine increases you end up with a very fancy water injection system. And water injection can increase horse power and milage.



Jay

[driximus]

The Theory is simple and makes sense the problem i dont like is the exploding...however im not an expert by anymeans on HHO

[cstroke69cpy3]

ive researched this quite a bit and I believe it does work..

but from what i've read the powerstroke isnt the best vehicle for it, something to do with how the powerstroke injects the fuel in two stages??

dont know how accurate that is..

hho is pretty neat stuff, have a guy i work with that was messing around with a generator just slapped together and was producing hho.. he wanted to see if it was producing gas so he filled a small soda bottle with it and threw it in a fire.
big boom..
myth busters tried to use hho solely as fuel not as supplemental fuel witch is where hho is the best right now..

[driximus]

Read up quite a bit in fact all 15 pages of the one long one. Honestly considering makeing one myself however i need to get my engine in the the truck before anything else.