b99-safe?

[f250power]

I just discovered that there is a biodiesel station only about a mile from my house ! Wondering how safe this stuff is, should I only use a little for lubrication or should I go straight bio ? It's b99.

[blizzardwarrior7]

In my opinion? No. I dont see the point in it. For one, the chemicals that go into biodiesel cant be all that good for the enviroment...Secondly its really not any cheaper than diesel...Thirdly the two people I know that have run it in their engines, (b100 I beleive) noticed a slight decrease in power, and in fuel economy. Here is a helpful link that lists pros and cons of it though
Auto Review: Pros and Cons of Biodiesel

[AFBLUE]

Originally Posted by blizzardwarrior7

In my opinion? No. I dont see the point in it. For one, the chemicals that go into biodiesel cant be all that good for the enviroment...Secondly its really not any cheaper than diesel...Thirdly the two people I know that have run it in their engines, (b100 I beleive) noticed a slight decrease in power, and in fuel economy. Here is a helpful link that lists pros and cons of it though
Auto Review: Pros and Cons of Biodiesel

Someone got a bad batch of Bio? Biodiesel is known to have a lower energy content than dino, so I can accept that fact. It comes down more to cost analysis. How much cheaper is B99? if it covers the loss in fuel economy, and is cheaper than dino I would run it. I run it and every form of it. I may be more radical in my ways but this is the second truck that I have bought to run B100 and WVO exclusively.

The chemicals that go into biodiesel being toxic? You tell me what is bad for the environment because that article didnt say one word about what its made out of. Well I will tell you what its made of, (1)Waste Vegtable oil that was destined years ago to go to the landfill or sprayed on your dogs food. (2) Methanol, derived from natural gas. (3) Sodium Hydroxide, this one I will throw you a little bone here, but nothing more than a puppy could handle. Its a caustic chemical in raw form, but when combined in the biodiesel process it attaches to the glycerin molecules and becomes soap!! Which by the way is environmentally friendly, its biodegradable. What is the end product of refining fuel? Ohh thats right its roofing/paving tar!!!! Good thing they found a use for it, or we would be showing in that sh$t by now.

Comes down to it if its cheaper and covers the price analysis then I would run it if you want.

[Southpaw]

What year truck is it?

It doesn't really matter, but if your truck is still under warranty, I think they only allow you to run B20 in it before the warranty is void? Someone may correct me on this, but that is what I've read and heard. If you run B99 and have injector o-ring issues, you may be SOL on the warranty.

Just food for thought.

[AFBLUE]

Methyl Ester (biodiesel) will swell low grade rubber over time, so there is concern with certain O rings and hoses over time so I would have it in the back of your mind, but its still something that I am not overly concerned with. The O rings that would possibly have issues would be the ones in the quick connects on the fuel lines. The Injector O rings from what I know are silicone so they are not as affected.

Warranty, would be something in question, and is also subjective with the dealer. If its under warranty I would use caution for the fact that they may give you hassle about it.

[blizzardwarrior7]

Well in my opinion, Its more worth your while to convert your truck to run on vegetable oil. I bought a kit from GreaseCar which is located 10 mintues from me. I have been running SVO in my truck for 5 months with great results. Same power, smoother running. It is much much cheaper, I pay about 2.50 a gallon, as i buy it from a pump prefiltered and everything. There are no negatives to using it at all, unless you dont filter it properly. In comparison, biodiesel around here runs close to 4.85, the exact same price as diesel.

[Clay Henry]

Using Bio-D is perfectly safe for your fuel system and you engine in general.
If you discover you need to go to the dealer for a warranty repair, its not likely they will ask you what fuel you are using unless your advertising with a huge window decal that says "This truck runs on French Fry Grease". And you can always top off with diesel and thin it down a bit on the way to the dealer.
It is expensive, yes but you are still cutting your dependance on imported oil when you purchase it. So that alone is enough for me. I use the vegiostroke but still have to buy a tank of diesel every 2500 miles or so and if i could buy bio-d in OK, i would but as of yet, there are no stations around here selling it.
Go for it.

[Clay Henry]

To add to that, Bio-d is an excellent solvent and will remove varnishes that may have accumulated in your tank and lines so when you begin using it, be prepared to change filters soon after...maybe within the first 500 - 1000 miles. And you may have to change again fairly soon after that depending on how dirty your tank was.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by AFBLUE

Methyl Ester (biodiesel) will swell low grade rubber over time, so there is concern with certain O rings and hoses over time so I would have it in the back of your mind, but its still something that I am not overly concerned with. The O rings that would possibly have issues would be the ones in the quick connects on the fuel lines. The Injector O rings from what I know are silicone so they are not as affected.

Warranty, would be something in question, and is also subjective with the dealer. If its under warranty I would use caution for the fact that they may give you hassle about it.

Where are the quick disconnect fuel lines? I know where the quick disconnect HPOP lines are, I've had to deal with them, and when I changed a leaking fuel line on the top of my motor, it was not quick disc. I'm just curious, I didn't know we had any for the fuel lines on these trucks.

[99bigred]

not 100% sure but i tihnk they are down by the fuel pump on the frame rail, there is some kind of joint there with a clip hold it together.