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Old 04-15-2008, 11:20 AM
alabamafrog alabamafrog is offline
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Yea, that makes sense but if you’re like me and your trailers will smash your cab if the ball is in front of the chunk then you got a problem. The best solution I could think of was to move the ball back 14” (about 8-10” behind the axle center line. I was worried at first but I can’t tell any difference in handling or towing since I have done it. I can now turn and go over uneven roads without smashing my cab or bed sides. My camper is about 8,000#, my tool box is around 13,000#, I have towed a tractor on a 25’ GN that weighed neat 15,000# and ran 75 mph for 8-10 hours. So far no problems at all.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:29 AM
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Also, if the 5th wheel rails are installed correctly they bolt through the bed and to brackets that bolt to the frame. There should be no real pressure on the bed itself. The GN hitch should bolt to the frame and run from side to side underneath the bed with the ball sticking up through a hole in the bed. I personally feel like the GN is stronger but it seems like the 5th wheels are rated higher. I converted my camper to GN but I do like knowing I can drop the 5th wheel hitch into my rails if I need to pull one.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:17 PM
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Mounting the hitch ball over the center of the pumpkin/rear axle is "ok", of course you don't want it behind the axle, but it is actually better to have the hitch mounted foward of the rear axle. The more forward the hitch the more it will help to eliminate trailer "sway" and also puts more weight on the front axle, i.e the load will be more stable and you truck can handle it better. B&W at one time recommended up to 6 or 7 inches forward of the rear axle I believe, now they have brought it down to 4inchs for there superduty turnover ball. Makes sense right?
The reason they did not want to do this was that if it was mounted directly over the pumpkin and a lot of weight was either put in the bed or on a tongue tow trailer causing the rear to be closer to the bed it would cause damage to the pumpkin if you were to hit a bump and the inverted ball came down on the pumpkin
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:20 PM
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:23 PM
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...yeah my beds dirty, but its a truck.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:36 PM
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The reason they did not want to do this was that if it was mounted directly over the pumpkin and a lot of weight was either put in the bed or on a tongue tow trailer causing the rear to be closer to the bed it would cause damage to the pumpkin if you were to hit a bump and the inverted ball came down on the pumpkin
Gotcha, but it's still a good idea to mount it slightly ahead of the axle
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:41 PM
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Yea, that makes sense but if you’re like me and your trailers will smash your cab if the ball is in front of the chunk then you got a problem. The best solution I could think of was to move the ball back 14” (about 8-10” behind the axle center line. I was worried at first but I can’t tell any difference in handling or towing since I have done it. I can now turn and go over uneven roads without smashing my cab or bed sides. My camper is about 8,000#, my tool box is around 13,000#, I have towed a tractor on a 25’ GN that weighed neat 15,000# and ran 75 mph for 8-10 hours. So far no problems at all.
This should hitch solves all the problems of the camper hitting the windows on a turn, hitch automatically adjusts it's position for turns, it takes up most of your bed space though, check out the videos of it in action.

PullRite has a SAFER, STRONGER, BETTER designed hitch for you


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Old 04-15-2008, 01:55 PM
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Gotcha, but it's still a good idea to mount it slightly ahead of the axle
Yes it is. Just with the shorter bed on the mega-cab and even some sb super duty trailer combos, as Alabamafrog eluded to, there is some serious issues with having the clearance to be able to turn with the ball mounted any further forward than the pumpkin. The OP stated that he has a long bed so this shouldn't be an issue for him.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:08 PM
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Yes it is. Just with the shorter bed on the mega-cab and even some sb super duty trailer combos, as Alabamafrog eluded to, there is some serious issues with having the clearance to be able to turn with the ball mounted any further forward than the pumpkin. The OP stated that he has a long bed so this shouldn't be an issue for him.

Ok I understand what the concern is now, Alabamafrog is running a GN on his camper so mounting the GN hitch more forward and would increase the ability of the camper to hit the cab on turns.

Since the OP has a long bed I would still recommend the B&W, and he can add the companion if needed later and will have not issue with Camper hitting the cab because it's a long bed, and will have a flush bed.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:13 AM
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thanks im probably gonna go with the reese rails and the " goose" hitch
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