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Common Rail 7.3

I have thought about fitting the motor with mechanical injection, the hpop gear is not in time with crank, damn.

I have got another dumb idea brewing. Why can we not machine a plug into the oil passage going from High pressure oil rail in head to injector and then use oil rails for the common rail. Then all we have to do is machine plugs that fit into the injector sleeves bored for common rail injectors. There are ports at each cylinder that are plugged, come out of those with the high pressure tubes to injectors. The VP-44 pump can be retrofitted to HPOP location.

The problem for me is electronics, I am not electrically inclined, but the old duramax uses 94 volt to fire injectors. I think ours are 110, I don't know. Is the firing sequence similar enough to use a powerstroke IDM to actuate injectors.

This may be a LONG SHOT but with common rail injection we eliminate the need for Big oil, Big injectors. Thats $6,000 we could spend on Cunninghams and a girdle.

The common rail to me is a much better set up for high horsepower. You can CRANK some horses out with simple programming and then cut it back when you don't need it.

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my vote is for crazy

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no your not crazy thinking about putting a common rail on 7.3L... because it is already in the works for a couple of guys... I have heard that someone might have a package out soon that you will be able to purchase for your 7.3L that will be common rail... but that has been awhile since I have heard that... sorry but that is all the info that i got..

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My vote is for doin it or gettin that pack naja4life was talkin about

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Check out my other thread (Custom GT45 hybrid). It pretty much covers it.
Yes Stock injectors, result, lower backpressure, better top end performance, no surge, just slight turbo lag below 1500 RPM. I will be running it indefinetly.
Eventually I'll either go mechanical, stage III or common rail if I can figure out the electronics.

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The HP oil rails will not handle the pressure you are talking about with a common rail. A common rail will run between 25K psi and 29K psi fuel pressure. The heads will handle 5K psi and some have had heads split with 5K psi of oil pressure from what have read.

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The HP oil rails will not handle the pressure you are talking about with a common rail. A common rail will run between 25K psi and 29K psi fuel pressure. The heads will handle 5K psi and some have had heads split with 5K psi of oil pressure from what have read.
I bet that is down right scary.

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