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Adding WW Gen 2---Need Info

So the other day towing my 8x16 enclosed trailer with a small load(4000k total) I was struggling to hold 70 mph and the comp surge was getting annoying. I decided it was time to make some changes to the truck to help improve towing performance. I don't want to think about how bad it would be to roll up I-70 into the the mountains in its current form. I have a 4" TB exhaust and a 6637 intake on it now. So I was looking around for a power adder, actually I've been looking for about a year! I have decided to go with the Edge Evo. It is a programmer and gauge set in one(includes pyrometer probe) for under $400.

Then the other issue is the turbo surge. I don't have the coin to do the 38R so its either the ported housing or a WW. I saw the post of the PHP guy and the WW2 and was quite impressed. I am pretty sure I will go this route. Would like anyone's feed back if they have one on their truck. Well with all of this I've been doing a ton of searching on the net and can't figure out what is right or wrong.

The questions I have are:

1)Removing the comp wheel with an impact, some do, some don't. If you have, how many miles since? Will it really mess up the shaft?

2)If you do remove the whole turbo to replace the wheel, wouldn't this be the opportune time to install a rebuild kit?

3)Does the turbo shaft need to be balanced once the new comp wheel is installed? If it does then I may as well have it all done by a professional. So now the cost is probably around $6-700. Still a good value,IMO, at half the cost of a 38R.

4)Now I've ordered all the parts, located a shop to do the work, drop it all off and I get a call later that the turbo is unrepairable.

5)I'm over thinking this?

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I would: pull the turbo, check for shaft play rebuild if necessary, not use an impact, and replace O rings.


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do not use edge, get a 6pos chip with custom tunes

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The wheels are balanced, so no need to re balance the assembly.
I found it easier to remove the turbo and do the swap on the bench. Hood popped to hood closed and tools away was under 1 hour, and I didn't use an impact for the wheel.

Only bother to rebuild if it's got some miles on it or is showing wear. IMO

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I've already purchased the Edge so that isn't an option. I did a fair amount of research on the programmer/hard chip comparison including price for both including gauges. I decided that for what I wanted to spend I could live with the 5% less power that I may gain by having custom tunes. Programmer will work well for me for what I need.

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Thanks Joel, truck has 180k. I bought it a year ago and pulled the intake and for all I could tell the shaft was aok.

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