Converting to a PTO - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 11 Old 11-08-2012, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
MKeeney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Reno NV
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Converting to a PTO

Not that I can afford it, but someday it would be nice to swap out my stock 4R100 trans with one that has the PTO. I run a hydraulic winch off my steering pump and it's kind of slow and under powered.

What's involved with the PTO tranny. I've never even seen a Powersmoke with a PTO. I don't even know how the output would hook up to the winch or even how it engages.

Be gentle, it's my first PowerStroke.

E99 SD 7.3L CC DRW 44
PHP Phoenix 6 Position Chip
aFe Stage II Intake
Wicked Wheel
4" Exhaust
Edge Insight CTS
Edge EAS EGT Probe
Edge TurboTimer
BD Exhaust Brake
BD TorqLoc
Pierce 2T Dump Bed
PacBrake Air Bags (Rear)
Viair Onboard Air Compressor
Escort 9500ix Radar Detector (Worth it's weight in gold)
Cobra 29LX CB.

MKeeney is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 Old 11-24-2012, 02:35 PM
Member
 
SierraStroker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I'm researching this myself right now as I'm currently truck shopping. From what I understand every ZF6 (the stock manual 6 speed) has a pto port. A small number of 4R100's do as well if I understand correctly.

I'm not worried about the 4R100's personally because I'm only interested in buying a manual to begin with. But yours might possibly already be setup for it, though I believe auto 4x4's never have it.

From that point you'll need the pto pump to attach to it and whatever hydraulic plumbing you want to take from there.

Here's a link for a reputable hydraulic pump supplier, Parker.

Edit: here's a picture of the zf6, you can see the PTO port cover near the bottom with 6 bolts holding it on.


Last edited by SierraStroker; 11-24-2012 at 02:39 PM.
SierraStroker is offline  
post #3 of 11 Old 11-25-2012, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
MKeeney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Reno NV
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I wonder what it all looks like with the pump assembly mounted on the tranny.

Be gentle, it's my first PowerStroke.

E99 SD 7.3L CC DRW 44
PHP Phoenix 6 Position Chip
aFe Stage II Intake
Wicked Wheel
4" Exhaust
Edge Insight CTS
Edge EAS EGT Probe
Edge TurboTimer
BD Exhaust Brake
BD TorqLoc
Pierce 2T Dump Bed
PacBrake Air Bags (Rear)
Viair Onboard Air Compressor
Escort 9500ix Radar Detector (Worth it's weight in gold)
Cobra 29LX CB.

MKeeney is offline  
post #4 of 11 Old 11-25-2012, 03:19 PM
Member
 
SierraStroker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Well hopefully I'll be able to show you that soon on my soon to be built work/play-rig.

Of course when I say soon I mean sometime in the next 6 months lol.

Having a direct drive hydraulic pump is going to be awesome though. Here's a few things I'd like to be doing with it...

-Dump bed kit
-Hydraulic quick connects for whatever pto implements I might use (chipper, splitter, tiller, etc)
-Hydraulic air compressor
-Hydraulic motor with belt system to connect to salvaged inverter I have from a dead generator
...said motor could also be used to run a rope tow for my backcountry snowboarding addiction, or re-geared to do faster pulls for urban snowboarding/skating/wakeboarding
-Hydraulic winch
-Snow plow (if I end up moving to tahoe this winter)
-Hydraulic jacks

I still need to do a lot of research on equipment and optimal setup. What I'm trying to figure out now is if the tranny has a way to clutch the pto's output so I can turn the pump on and off or if I need to go about some other means of disconnecting it so its not constantly dragging on the engine while driving.
SierraStroker is offline  
post #5 of 11 Old 11-25-2012, 04:23 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 65
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
any idea of what the PTO gear pattern is on the zf-6? I have a forward/reverse box I would like to install for a 10k winch.

2000 RCLB, 6spd, alot of custom work.
back woods is offline  
post #6 of 11 Old 11-26-2012, 12:09 AM
Member
 
SierraStroker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
No sorry. Could I get some more info on the box you're talking about though? Pictures would be great if you can too.
SierraStroker is offline  
post #7 of 11 Old 11-26-2012, 02:44 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 65
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Ill get some pictures later.

2000 RCLB, 6spd, alot of custom work.
back woods is offline  
post #8 of 11 Old 11-26-2012, 04:46 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
MKeeney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Reno NV
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by SierraStroker View Post
Well hopefully I'll be able to show you that soon on my soon to be built work/play-rig.

Of course when I say soon I mean sometime in the next 6 months lol.

Having a direct drive hydraulic pump is going to be awesome though. Here's a few things I'd like to be doing with it...

-Dump bed kit
-Hydraulic quick connects for whatever pto implements I might use (chipper, splitter, tiller, etc)
-Hydraulic air compressor
-Hydraulic motor with belt system to connect to salvaged inverter I have from a dead generator
...said motor could also be used to run a rope tow for my backcountry snowboarding addiction, or re-geared to do faster pulls for urban snowboarding/skating/wakeboarding
-Hydraulic winch
-Snow plow (if I end up moving to tahoe this winter)
-Hydraulic jacks

I still need to do a lot of research on equipment and optimal setup. What I'm trying to figure out now is if the tranny has a way to clutch the pto's output so I can turn the pump on and off or if I need to go about some other means of disconnecting it so its not constantly dragging on the engine while driving.
I dunno about a hydraulic air compressor or a truck mounted tiller, but most of the rest of what you're talking about is quite doable. I have a Pierce 2 ton dump bed on my truck already. It has a dedicated electric/hydraulic pump, but would work much better if it were connected to a PTO. I also have a Mile Marker 12,000 lb. hydraulic winch that currently runs off the power steering pump. I've got it mounted on the front of the truck on a reinforced trailer hitch. It's got quick disconnect fittings on everything so I can run it off the trailer hitch on the back of the truck, (when I get it plumbed that is). Mile Marker tells me it'll pull 18,000 lbs if it's hooked up to a PTO instead of the power steering pump. It would run much faster on the PTO too. I don't think there's any way to get it to run fast enough to pull a snowboarder at any kind of speed that would be fun.

All PTO's are designed to be used with the vehicle stationary. They're disconnected from the powertrain when you drive. Running them at high RPM would spell disaster.

Be gentle, it's my first PowerStroke.

E99 SD 7.3L CC DRW 44
PHP Phoenix 6 Position Chip
aFe Stage II Intake
Wicked Wheel
4" Exhaust
Edge Insight CTS
Edge EAS EGT Probe
Edge TurboTimer
BD Exhaust Brake
BD TorqLoc
Pierce 2T Dump Bed
PacBrake Air Bags (Rear)
Viair Onboard Air Compressor
Escort 9500ix Radar Detector (Worth it's weight in gold)
Cobra 29LX CB.

MKeeney is offline  
post #9 of 11 Old 11-26-2012, 01:11 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 65
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews





2000 RCLB, 6spd, alot of custom work.
back woods is offline  
post #10 of 11 Old 01-24-2014, 06:37 AM
Powerstroke.org Fanatic
 
natemoses13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Upstate, SC
Posts: 105
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Anyone have more info on where to buy the specific parts needed to utilize a pto. I am specifically interested in using it to power a dump bed.

E99 F350 crew cab dually flatbed. 2wd 6-speed. Boost and egt gauges. 6637 intake. Superchips flashpaq.

L99 F350 crew cab dually flatbed. 2wd Auto. Billet TC & aux cooler. 6637 intake. Superchips flashpaq.
natemoses13 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome