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Over the course of the last year I have slowly been upgrading my truck as money allows. Started with a new Cold air intake, then added the 4" turbo back exhaust. Next an Edge Insight CS to monitor what's going on and now I am ready for my next upgrade. I am planning on ordering form PHP and was just wondering which daily driver tune 65 or 80 seems to get the best MPG for those running it. thanks for any advice The truck is a 2000 CC SB 4wd AT.
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Take a look at the performance section of the 7.3l forum. I'd recommend against a chip from PHP at this point. They may be less expensive, but their customer service and turn around time is atrocious.

Nonconformist. Functionality over bling.

My three rules for 7.3l troubleshooting: 1) Replace CPS and keep a spare. 2) Replace FPR and know your fuel pressure. 3) Hook it to a scanner and check for codes.
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That is true but as for the question at hand I actually just talked to bill yesterday about this issue and he said he recommends the 80 hp daily driver

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Seems to be the 80 DD for city mpg and the 100 perf for freeway mpg.

I ordered my PHP on May 2nd and according to USPS it is out for delivery today. I didn't even try the phone call method but that's old school anyways. They have been very responsive via their forum.

I am into mpg. Stock tires, lowered back, tonneau etc. and I chose stock, 65 tow (7500-10000 lb trailer), 80dd with whisper idle, 80dd regular, 100 perf, and no-start with high idle. I am not a racer or smoker kid, this is a daily driver and tow pig.

The blended tunes are an awesome concept. The 80dd/whisper means as soon as the engine comes off of idle it is the regular 80dd tune. The nostart/hi-idle means that if the engine is off the engine won't start but if I select that position while the engine is running then the engine goes up to an 1100 rpm idle.

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Over the course of the last year I have slowly been upgrading my truck as money allows. Started with a new Cold air intake, then added the 4" turbo back exhaust. Next an Edge Insight CS to monitor what's going on and now I am ready for my next upgrade. I am planning on ordering form PHP and was just wondering which daily driver tune 65 or 80 seems to get the best MPG for those running it. thanks for any advice The truck is a 2000 CC SB 4wd AT.
Does the edge have a EGT Pyro?

If it does, I say go for the tuner, I am nothing but happy with my tunes from PHP... I used their tow tunes for a good size camper that I towed through the mountains and the EGTs were fine, and plenty of power.

I actually get better mileage with my chip on the 100 performance tune, but I drive very aggressively and am in the mountains/hills.
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EGT Pyro is going on soon, definitely before any tunes are ordered. The truck is used for towing a 30 ft fifth wheel and hauling kids. Stock tires and tonneau pro trifold cover. Not driven daily but often enough I want all the MPG I can get. Havn't heard of the "blended" tunes but sounds like something I might like. Thanks for all the input. Keep the opinions coming, thanks.
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x2 on PHP being slow. If you are in no hurry to get the chip and you don't think you'll need to be in touch with them at all I would say to go ahead with it, as they do offer a great product at a great price. I don't mind the slow order processing, I just wish the CS aspect was a little quicker.

Anyways, I went with a high idle / 65 tow combo tune. Kinda cool. And of course a stock, no start, 100 perf, 120 race, and smoke. For anyone wondering, I do not recommend the smoke at all, pretty useless. The novelty will wear off immediately and if you want to be an *** and smoke out your buddy the 120 will do the same thing. lol. (Note: Don't lecture me about smoke, I never blow any in public.)

I drive a 6 speed and usually cruise in 100 perf. I don't know if I saw any mileage gains, but I certainly didn't lose any... which is good enough for me considering the performance gained.


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When my truck was all stock i saw my best mileage with the 80dd tune, I also got good mileage from the 100 performance tune but it's had to keep your foot out of it, especially with the way bill writes the tunes unlike some tuners who feel like the pedal is an on/off switch the truck feels like is almost stock until you romp on it then it just keeps on pulling

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Phoenix chip recieved!

Finally got around to ordering my chip, turnaround time on my order was less than 2 weeks. That was very acceptable to me, considering they were closed on vacation when I ordered so they were already behind. Can't wait to get it installed this weekend and try it out. Thanks to everyone for their input. I went with WH, Stock, 40 tow, 65 tow, 80dd, and 100 perf.
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