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black cps

I know this has been beat to death but does anyone know the international part number for the black or blue cps that fits the later trucks. I've read and everything I've read has 4 different numbers and its hard to tell the parts guy I want the best out of these 4.

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is this what you are looking for?

Replacement O-rings for Ford Diesel Engines

Edit: You need to click on this link, then click on 99-03 7.3 on the left side of the page, then click on "Injectors/Sensors". The black CPS is the first one on that page.

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I think all too much has been made of the CPS differences, and while I'm sure there are engines that it makes a significant difference on (and I have No Idea why this is..) the Vast majority of 7.3's out there are running on Grey CPS's with their owners completely unaware of any change.

At some point, it's going to become impossible to find a Black replacement (it must be 5 or more years since one was made) and I'd want to be Sure your truck is one of those that it actually makes more than a subtle difference before you spend all kinds of money on one

Here's what I have on the part #'s ;

Original Black CPS
Ford: F7TZ-12K073-A
IH(equivlant): 1825899C93
IH(superceded version): 1821720C99

Recall Grey CPS
Ford: F7TZ-12K073-B
IH(equivlant): 1876735C91

IH DT466 original CPS (blue): IH Part # - 1807339C92

And the perdel test results that makes people think they need one

Black, Grey, & Dark Blue Cam Position Sensor Perdels Test - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com

But Again, be sure this isn't the Answer-to-the-Nonexistent-Problem (Jeff Cooper) for you!

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Im getting an extra one to carry as a spare but I hate buying parts through Ford so I was looking to get on from international I just didn't want to call with 4 numbers and have to figure which one was a good number

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is this what you are looking for?

Replacement O-rings for Ford Diesel Engines

Edit: You need to click on this link, then click on 99-03 7.3 on the left side of the page, then click on "Injectors/Sensors". The black CPS is the first one on that page.
As of now SOLD OUT.

Rock Auto carries 4, Standard Motor, Airtex/Wells, Delphi, ORIGINAL ENGINE MANAGEMENT.

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Assuming the sensors are putting out enough of a signal for the ECU to do it's thing, the only reason one sensor would perform better than another (besides reliability) would have to be related to production tolerances where the inductor in the sensor is positioned slightly differently so the timing varies a little bit. At least, that's all I could come up with.

I'm somewhat surprised that one of the aftermarket companies hasn't come out with their own version that fixes the problem permanently.
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Been running the Delphi CPS since November. Works great
Also ran the BWD. Waste of money
Started with the Ford grey. Engine was a bit louder, and seemed to run rough(not subtantially, but noticeable)
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The Delphi has a stronger magnet than does the ford grey. Also, looks identical to the OE(larger) ford black CPS's. Not really sure it matters. Maybe need to ask an electronics nut for an opinion. I'm not up to speed with my ohm's

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ive heard blue makes a difference because it causes the timing to get advanced? a little bit but can mess up the timing with your chip. I know my truck fluxuates about 200-300 rpm now and is really annoying and ive heard thats common on the ford grey

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