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Old 09-30-2011, 07:14 AM
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New guy with some issues...

I'm new to this site and relatively new to the diesel scene. But figure I should get on here and introduce myself maybe get some help with my rig.

Names Jon.. I work in the oilfield I have only owned 2 diesel trucks ever and both were fords. I have ha numerous company trucks that were fords... I just bought this truck and i have some issues with it. Let me give you a run down

2001 f250 lariat short bed 4x4
119xxx miles.

Truck has some mods here comes the list
S&b intake
4" downpipe 5" exhaust 6" tip(all mbrp brand)
Flexalite fans
Diesel site rubber connector boots.
6.0 intercooler
Upgraded tranny cooler(can't remember the btu off hand)
8" lift(skyjacker brand I believe)
Fab tech pitman arm
20" xd diesel wheels in satin black
35x12.5x20 nitto trail grappler m/t

Truck also had a modified turbo(1.0 a/r exhaust housing no wastegate and wicked wheel compressor from beans diesel) and superchip tuner but both were removed when the issues arose I have them but wanna fix the issues before reinstalling

I bought the truck for 10.5k it's in awesome condition I fell in love when I saw it had to have it. Truck smokes blue(burning oil) once it warms up. Starts without hesitation every time.

I was told by previous owner that he ha the truck scanned by ford and that the scan showed number 8 injector was bad but that all injectors passed the"buzz" test which I was told is a compensation test? The truck did have a noticeable fuel"knock" on the driver side bank With this info I put the truck under and replaced the number 8 injector and driver side injector harness with a factory reman injector to see if that in fact was the issue... Turns out that is not. With the new injector installed the fuel knock is gone on driver side bank. I believe there is another injector bad on the passenger side also. It is still smoking blue. More so at idle than anything else. Also if I run the truck on the highway or stay in the throttle for too long the trick bogs down has no power and revs very slow but no increase in smoke or change in color of smoke. Almost like it goes into limp mode but no check engine light either... I'm leaning torwards a mixture of bad injector(s) and possibly worn turbo seals. The turbo currently on it is a used turbo supposedly with only 60k on it but it was just sitting in the shop out on a shelf... Also the inlet pipe that connects the turbo and the intake is broken right were the pipe clamps to the turbo I couldn't find one in town so I took the previous owners duck tape off and epoxied it back together and then wrapped some high heat tape around it for kind of a temp bandage idk how well it is working..

I work alot out of town so the truck is sitting at home and im just kinda kicking ideas around wanting to get a handle on it. It's kind of a project type thing but I'd like to get it eunnig asap into daily driver status. Cause driving my company truck around does get old... Btw company truck is a 2011 f250. Scorpion. I do like that truck lol

Hopefully I gave enough details let's see what you guys come up with.

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Old 09-30-2011, 06:30 PM
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Anybody? Help? I hear people :/
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Come on fellas help a brotha out!
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Not sure, but sounds like it could be a couple things. Do you know anybody with a good scanner? The generic OBDII scanners don't usually work with these trucks, and just because the CEL is not on does not mean there are no codes.

One thing right off, might want to look into gauges, for transmission temp and EGT (exhaust Gas Temp), and Boost is helpful as well. From reading your post it sounds like the Intercooler boots are shot and held together with tape? Definitely need to buy new boots and check the entire intercooler and up-pipe system for boost leaks.

Next, you should have a spare CPS anyway, so you can pick up a Ford CPS and switch it out and see if that helps at all. Use only a Ford CPS, unless you can find an International CPS for a "T444E".

Welcome to guzzle's CPS R&R Web Page<

Next, you can also try unplugging the ICP and see if that clears it up. Its quick and easy. Also check for oil on the plug or wiring harness.


Lastly, when was the last time the fuel filter was checked/changed? Was the tank low when this happens, or does it do it all the time?


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The boots for the intercooler are new what is shot is the inlet pipe for the turbo it is held together with tape comes from the intake box to the turbo... I'm working on sourcing one of them right now..

It will be getting scanned with a good scanner tomorrow.

Idk what that other **** u said is lol all these damn acronyms.

I have some gauges I will be installing soon as I get home again there is not enough on the factory gauges I don't feel comfortable not knowing the boost psi or trans temps or exhaust gas temp as u stated.

The problem is there no matter hat fuel level. Idk the age of the filter for certain I was told it was new and it also has an additional in line filter installed.

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also I'm assuming that this is for the limp mode problem not the oil smoke it doesn't sound like any of these isues you mentioned would be causin the motor to burn oil but I could be wrong I definitely have been in the past


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Which parts did you not understand?

CEL=Check Engine Light

ICP is the sensor, the diagram shows where it is.

The CPS is described with photos in the link.


If you do not know how old the fuel filter is I would change it, it should be done every 10-15k miles.
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I was on location my signal was low couldn't google lol. I got it now. I knew CEL

ICP= injector control pressure sensor
Cps= crankshaft position sensor?

The fuel filter is on list to be replaced as soon as I get home even tho I was informed it was new I had already opted to do a full fluid and filter service for my own peace of mind.

Problem is I bought this truck on a impulse because I just loved the look of it and it was only 10k. Cheaper than any other f250 I looked at. I literally bought it and went back to work had a friend pick it up for me. I didn't even really drive it until I got home a week ago. I've owned the truck a month. Probably not the smartest thing but I'm ok with spending a bit to get it running right.

I test drove it before I bought it an saw the blue smoke the bogging/limp mode issue didn't occur til I drove it after I got home... It's going to a mechanic shop because I don't have time but bein that I do not know diesels very well I kinda wanted to kinda know the possible culprits to know if the mechanic is maybe going the wrong direction....

I appreciate the help too guys. I'll be home in 5 days and I'll try/check the little things on the list that you mentioned. And I ordered a intake tube from rockauto just a few min ago but they didn't have a ford CPS only off brands and Delphi so I did not order one f those


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ok here we go this truck at idle the piston rings have not fully expanded some from my own idea crank case pressure and blow by could be possible. test this with a 710 test and check it out also from the reading sounds like the truck was kinda rigged up no offense but duck tape really and super chip on prob a pmr motor not such a good idea. also oil causeing the blue smoke there is oil getting into you fuel some how. this is very easy with heui injection the thing is you have oil running thought the injectors good and bad in this idea ,but maybe before the fuel in reaching the injectors oil is getting in the rail my guess. Buzz test is only checking the electronic valve on the injectors but it does not test the mechanical side of the injector ie the needle you need so much fuel pressure to lift the needle off its seat and allow fuel to leave the injector. soo did the owner get a cyc comb test
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so as I'm thinking injectors are a almost certain thing. And rings possibly worst case scenario? Worst case scenario how much would it cost to put rings in the motor and that would probably need to be done by a diesel specialist I'm guessing? My normal mechAnic can do the injectors I'm positive I dont know for sure if he could do the rings...

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