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Loose steering fixed!

Okay, I searched and found some info on loose steering that worked VERY well. This has probably been covered, but if it helps 1 guy it's worth it.
I came across this article on how to tighten the 2-3" of play I had in my new PSD and it's the schizz.
Note: I'm not much of a mechanic and did this in about 20 minutes including the test drives, so ANYONE could do this.
Read this thread and get all the info like I did, every truck is not the same.

Basiclly I turned it 3/4, drove, turned 3/4, turned 1/2, MONEY. My truck feels MUCH tighter in the steering and seems to have a better turning radius. It is well cautioned in the thread to not over do it, so be carefull. Hope this helps someone out.

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I did the same research then bought a Red Head Steering replacement box. That is only a temporary fix. What's happening is re-meshing the gears inside the box and it'll just keep wearing them down until finally no steering is left. That could be a bad day on the interstate.


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I did the same research then bought a Red Head Steering replacement box. That is only a temporary fix. What's happening is re-meshing the gears inside the box and it'll just keep wearing them down until finally no steering is left. That could be a bad day on the interstate.
Thanks, I should have bought a new steering box. Now i'm gonna die on the interstate. I'm gonna start sending emails to all the idiots that did this.

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I did the same research then bought a Red Head Steering replacement box. That is only a temporary fix. What's happening is re-meshing the gears inside the box and it'll just keep wearing them down until finally no steering is left. That could be a bad day on the interstate.

I did this temporary fix and I only was able to log 104,000 miles from the fix. I've since sold the truck the temporary fix was still working when I sold the truck and to my knowledge the temporary fix is still temporarily holding as I know the person I sold the truck to.
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I tried this fix too, but it didn't last me long at all.

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Thanks, I should have bought a new steering box. Now i'm gonna die on the interstate. I'm gonna start sending emails to all the idiots that did this.
You should have kept your other post where you showed your wonderfulness your highness. Do what you do though! I didn't mean to impede on your thread and share some insight. I'll go back and sit on my donut because my butt hurts so much from making the CHOICE to buy the red head box... Tell your wife to come see me when you wreck on the interstate. I'll post it for her.



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I did this temporary fix and I only was able to log 104,000 miles from the fix. I've since sold the truck the temporary fix was still working when I sold the truck and to my knowledge the temporary fix is still temporarily holding as I know the person I sold the truck to.
I did it too. Mine lasted 2 days. Two guys playing russian roulette has at least 1 winner. Sometimes it's just luck but for every one that is fixed there are many others that aren't...


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I gotta just chime-in on this

There are way too many guys, with bad steering components (idler arms, tie rod ends, etc), who think it's OK to just "crank away" on that box. It is a STUPID fix that is recommended way too often here....

merc123 is ABSOLUTELY right! If you indiscriminately crank down on the adjustment (easy to do) you are binding the gears up and will ruin the box (which is probably OK in the first place) and risk losing the ability to steer properly.

Only after eliminating the possibility of the "slop" coming from one of the Many joints in the steering system, should you even consider adjusting the box itself. Have somebody rock the slop in the wheel back & forth while you compare the amount the input shaft moves with the pitman arms movement, and realize, There SHOULD be some "slop".

You need clearance between the gears (just like in your diff, you'd never shim that up Tight - right?)

Any adjustment you make should be slight, and STOP and BACKOFF if you lose all the slop or feel ANY binding (wheels up, off the ground, lock-to-lock)

You're messin' with serious stuff here,,,, don't screw around with Brakes or Steering!
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I know your list wasn't exhaustive, but I would also offer up that ball joints should be included as an often overlooked suspension component responsible for excessive end play in the steering.

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I gotta just chime-in on this

There are way too many guys, with bad steering components (idler arms, tie rod ends, etc), who think it's OK to just "crank away" on that box. It is a STUPID fix that is recommended way too often here....

merc123 is ABSOLUTELY right! If you indiscriminately crank down on the adjustment (easy to do) you are binding the gears up and will ruin the box (which is probably OK in the first place) and risk losing the ability to steer properly.

Only after eliminating the possibility of the "slop" coming from one of the Many joints in the steering system, should you even consider adjusting the box itself. Have somebody rock the slop in the wheel back & forth while you compare the amount the input shaft moves with the pitman arms movement, and realize, There SHOULD be some "slop".

You need clearance between the gears (just like in your diff, you'd never shim that up Tight - right?)

Any adjustment you make should be slight, and STOP and BACKOFF if you lose all the slop or feel ANY binding (wheels up, off the ground, lock-to-lock)

You're messin' with serious stuff here,,,, don't screw around with Brakes or Steering!
Let him do his 2 FULL turns...even though most instructions say 1/8 or 1/4 turn at most...


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Question about this

I just bought a truck, early 99 f250, and when I shift it into a gear (d,p,n,1,2) it's off by 1 gear as far as what it shows. Is this part of the stearing box or somethign totally unrelated? I was told there was a little knob I could turn that would line up the gearshifter with the gear it was actually in.
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