Can we burn JP8? - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 11 Old 03-17-2011, 07:20 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
chrispaine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Southern Michigan
Posts: 1,091
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Can we burn JP8?

Not that I have access, just curious if we can stock or what it would take to use JP8 (jet fuel) if we wanted/had too. I know most military vehicles are muti fuel.

2000 F250 7.3L EX.Cab Short Bed -05 Front end w/ HID's - Leveling shackles - Wicked wheel - Dipricol gauges - FORD AIS intake - Foil Delete - LINE-X Rockers - CCV dump - 315/70/17 BFG A/T with Eagle Alloy 197's - ELC w/ coolant filter and around the belt hose - PHP Hydra - Hpress oil x

On the way--
-Fusion front bumper - ATS 3" fender flares


chrispaine is offline  
post #2 of 11 Old 03-17-2011, 07:23 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
dieselmac99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lunenburg, MA
Posts: 356
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
theres a pretty healthy thread on this from a bunch of active guys somewhere on here. IIRC the verdict was no, and I dont remember why. The thread is either here or on the nation, I do know that one for sure.

2000 F250 7.3 ZF6 4x4 EC/LB 5" TBE
2003 Chevrolet LB7 Allison 1000 4"TB
2004 F450 6.0 5R110 9' MM2
2004 F350 6.8 5R110 8' MM2
dieselmac99 is offline  
post #3 of 11 Old 03-17-2011, 07:29 AM
I need money...
 
CADASH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Maple Hill NC, not Jacksonville!
Posts: 1,592
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Im burning JP5 with additives. Im aware of the potential consequences. Look at the MSDS for pump diesel and compare it to the JP8 MSDS. I think you will figure out why its potentially bad.

2002 F-250 Lariat CC 4x4
"Im Dan,my tranny hates me no more!!"
AFE Stage 2
Power Hungry Perfomance Custom 6 Pos chip
Suncoast tranny
EBPV Deleted
Isspro Boost,Tranny and EGT
4 Inch Turbo Back Straight
Air Dog 150
H2E
Adrenaline HPOP
6.0L Tranny Cooler
4 inch Rancho lift
FS-2500
Fluidampr
CADASH is offline  
post #4 of 11 Old 03-17-2011, 08:09 AM
Serving Our Country!
 
1tonpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 931
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to 1tonpower
I'm in the gaurd and I now that the government ford diesel trucks use ULS fuel. I heard that they tried to or some one F'ed up but the new trucks didn't run to well on jp8

08 f350 KMC wheels with 33" MTZs, bed rails with a reese 20k slider, 5% tint all around, 60gal fuel box, kenwood monitor, afe drop in filter, livewire w/innovative tunes, sinister egr delete, twisted stage 3 trans

1tonpower is offline  
post #5 of 11 Old 03-17-2011, 09:31 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Riverside/Norco, Ca
Posts: 3,771
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
i would say it doesnt have enough lubrication, who knows, i wouldnt.
Dietoremain is offline  
post #6 of 11 Old 03-17-2011, 04:11 PM
Serving Our Country!
 
1tonpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 931
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to 1tonpower
" Jet fuel is often used in ground support vehicles at airports, instead of diesel. The United States military makes heavy use of JP-8, for instance. However, jet fuel tends to have poor lubricating ability in comparison to diesel, thereby increasing wear on fuel pumps and other related engine parts. Civilian vehicles tend to disallow its use, or require that an additive be mixed with the jet fuel in order to restore its lubricity. Jet fuel is also significantly more expensive than diesel, so using it in ground vehicles is considered by some to be wasteful"


i found this answer on another sight

08 f350 KMC wheels with 33" MTZs, bed rails with a reese 20k slider, 5% tint all around, 60gal fuel box, kenwood monitor, afe drop in filter, livewire w/innovative tunes, sinister egr delete, twisted stage 3 trans

1tonpower is offline  
post #7 of 11 Old 03-17-2011, 04:29 PM
Rob
Super Moderator



 
Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Layton, Utah
Posts: 13,244
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Rob Send a message via MSN to Rob Send a message via Skype™ to Rob
there are detergents added to JP-8 also that might cause the vehicle to run poorly. When I was stationed at Luke AFB, they used JP-8+100.. i guess it was a detergent added to the fuel to help prevent coking in the main fuel control and associated fuel lines, (that's what I was told anyway.)

Rob, The Investigator!
Audentes Fortuna Juvat
(Fortune Favors The Bold)
Rwalker@Powerstroke.Org
The Org. Staff reserves the right to
move, modify, delete or merge threads/posts
at our discretion, without explanation
at any time.

Rob is offline  
post #8 of 11 Old 03-17-2011, 09:07 PM
Powerstroke.org Fanatic
 
MoparBill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: North Richland Hills, TX
Posts: 132
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I talked to a guy that was running it in his Cummins, he seemed happy with it, not sure if I would or not.

6637
Foil delete
05 headlights
05 fender & tail gate badges
Muffler deleted
Leveling kit installed
Glowshifts for now...
PMT2
SRP1 HPOP, PHP FU, 4" turbo back on my short list

MoparBill is offline  
post #9 of 11 Old 03-18-2011, 12:58 AM
Serving Our Country!
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Middleburg, FL
Posts: 371
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Working in Afghainistan, the Air Force has a bunch of 04 350's and some D-Max's thrown in for good measure, and they all have to run on JP-8 (the only fuel available on my FOB). According to them, the trucks seem to have cold starting issues but will run fine once warmed up.
Interestingly, I've pulled EGR valves from those trucks and they are fairly clean for being in the truck 7 years without maintenance. For full disclosure the trucks rarely see speeds above 20 mph or distances over 2 miles, so they rarely get a chance to get heated up properly. This last winter the temp were in the single digits with snow and only one truck failed to start first try.

F250 sold.
nc1500 is offline  
post #10 of 11 Old 03-18-2011, 04:03 AM
FJuanfiddy mod


 
Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Trempealeau, WI
Posts: 31,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Thanks: 132
Thanked 182 Times in 162 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via Yahoo to Dave
If you run it. Add at a minimum a quart of two stroke with it.

JP8 has zero lubricaticative quality

Email: Dave@powerstroke.org
2011 F150 Ecoboost Crew cab lariat. Custom tunes from KEM and 5Star, and Unleashed
2012 F150 Crew Cab Ecoboost stock for now-Totaled March 12 2015
2006 F250 ECSB Lariat 4x4

Leveling kit, 315/70/17 Kelly TSRs on Method race wheels
ARP studs and OEM gaskets done by Renegade Diesel
ECM and Atlas 40 FICM tuned by Bill at PHP SCT tunes by Truck Source Diesel. Gearhead, Innovative, Wildman and Tyrant diesel
Flowmaster/MBRP Hybrid Exhaust
Edge Insight CTS
Coolant filter
Bulletproof diesel FICM EGR Delete, Oil Cooler and Water Pump, and Light bar.
Dually LED lights from Stealth Automotive/Xpedition Outfitters
No Limit Fab 6.0 Cold Air Intake
http://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/default.asp
http://nolimitfabrication.com/
Dave is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome