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7.3 OR 6.0

I am currently looking at 2 trucks and thought i would post in here and ask which truck everyone thinks might be better to go after.

The first is a 2000 f250 xlt 4x4 looks to be in great shape with 207k miles.

The second one is a 2003 f250 lariat fx4 that also looks to be in great shape with 202k miles.

What truck would you be more willing to purchase?
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p.s. also gonna post this in the 6.0 forum.
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dunno honeslty. the 7.3 has a reliable reputation. i would probably go 7.3 personally. but i also know you can put about $2k or so into a 6.0 to make it nearly bullet proof and reliable. not counting labor of course.

the 6.0 has to hav ehte cab removed for certain types of work thought right?

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dunno honeslty. the 7.3 has a reliable reputation. i would probably go 7.3 personally. but i also know you can put about $2k or so into a 6.0 to make it nearly bullet proof and reliable. not counting labor of course.

the 6.0 has to hav ehte cab removed for certain types of work thought right?
No you dont have to pull the cab to do anything on a 6.0. However it makes it easier

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dunno honeslty. the 7.3 has a reliable reputation. i would probably go 7.3 personally. but i also know you can put about $2k or so into a 6.0 to make it nearly bullet proof and reliable. not counting labor of course.

the 6.0 has to hav ehte cab removed for certain types of work thought right?
what do you have to do to accomplish that I am looking for a truck as well I really don't want to have two of the same brand I try to get the best of all worlds and i love the body style on the f250

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ask the 6.0 guys for sure. from what ive read:

EGR delete or upgrade
oil cooler upgrade/replacement
something with the turbo oil lines in certain years
fresh head gaskets are usually advised
ARP head studs if your going to power up much

and a few other items. dieselpowermag has a list on their site somewhere. and there is a place that sells all the stuff in a kit. this is all preventative, not saying that you WILL have problems without it. this is all info i have read and and regurgitating.

EDIT: i think this was the article? http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/0...ine/index.html

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EGR delete or upgrade.

Coolant flush and replace with red ELC and a coolant filter.

Gauges to monitor ECT and EOT

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I have both. If I could go back in time and not buy the 6.0 I would. One of my 7.3 (IDI)as 450k miles on it only major work was head gaskets at 350k and tranny at 300k. The other 7.3 (PSD)I bought with 225k miles now has 256. Have done nothing but change fluids. Great truck. My 6.0 I am in the proccess of dumping some serious money into. I will be up to about $2500 by the time I am done. Blew head gasket, bad egr cooler,bad oil cooler. So new head gaskets, egr cooler delete,oil cooler rebuild, turbo recondition ( 4 vanes where stuck in close position), and new vgt solenoid. This truck only has 125k miles on it. No tune bone stock .Like I said 2500 and I am doing it in my driveway. I have read that ford quotes between 4000 and 7000 to do this repair.
The 6.0 is suppose to have more power. My stock 7.3 out runs it everytime. On another note the 6.0 drives like a luxary car compared to my 7.3.
So if you get the 6.0 plan on doing the upgrades I mentioned. Better to do it before you blow the head gasket.
Before you buy the 6.0 pull the egr valve if they will let you. It is right behind the intake elbow. If it appear to be moist or is completely blocked you are probaly looking at the beginning of egr cooler failed.

From what I understand once I finish the work I am doing I will have a."bullet proof " 6.0. But like I said I take the 7.3 over the 6.0 anyday simply because it is more reliable.
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See the gauges I mentioned above. If you had them you would have had no issues

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after havign read that ^ i personally woudl buy the 7.3, do some PM, and spend hte $$ on exhaust, intake, gauges, chip, and a few other goodies if you tow. JMHO

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recap of 6.0 upgrades I am doing and i think most 6.0 guys will agree.
ARP Studs
headgaskets
oil cooler rebuild
EGR Cooler Delete ( several options: here i pulled mine out and welded freeze plugs in each end, left the coolant open replaced o ring and reinstalled, cleaned the egr valve and put it back. did not throw any codes and has all appearance of stock stytem)
turbo recondition
Upgrade turbo oil Supply
replace Turbo VGT solenoid.

If you plan on doing this work yourself pull the alt, radiator and fan first, a special line disconnet tool , large pipe wrench and prybar will be needed, take about 30 minutes but this give you a nice space to stand inside the engine compartment.

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