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Test drove an '01...need advice
I just looked at an '01 PSD on a local dealer's lot tonight and have some mixed feelings, but I'm wondering if I'm just being paranoid. I've never bought a vehicle this new or this expensive before, so making $20K mistake scares the hell out of me. The truck is a 2001 Black/tan Supercab Shortbed 4x4 Lariat with 69,350 miles. Overall the paint is nice, interior is clean, etc...according to Carfax it spent time in Upstate New York and Michigan, but the underbody seemed to be in very good shape except for some rust on the inside of the passenger door.
The passenger side door lock doesn't work with the keyless entry, which I'm sure is a minor fix and it needs tires. The thing that struck me the most was that the emergency brake light in the lower right corner of the dash would not go out no matter how many times I pulled the release. As soon as I put the truck into drive the seatbelt chime started to off. Both me and the salesguy had our belts on, the doors were both closed, etc...but it would not go off. I finally pulled into a parking lot to pull the parking brake release one more time but no dice. We drove back to the dealership and I told him to have it looked at and I'd come back on Saturday.
Another thing I want to ask about is how it sounded when it started up. When I turned the key to on the wait to start light popped on and off in about 30 seconds I guess. It took longer than I thought it would to turn over after that, and when it did start it "surged" about 3 or 4 times as if someone was stabbing the pedal quickly and taking their foot off right away. Is that normal? Now keep in mind that we've been seeing temps anywhere from the single digits to the teens here all week and this truck hadn't been plugged in or anything. I checked the weather when I got home and it was 20 degrees F/8 with wind chill.
Eventually the idle evened out and came down a bit, then it jumped to high idle for a while. When it was high idling the exhaust sounded like a hissing leaf blower on steroids which I'm assuming was due to the EBPV. Once we got going it seemed a little sluggish until I really put the power on which I guess was also the EBPV, but it felt like it pulled hard when I got on the pedal. Anyway, I plan to hit a bunch of dealerships on Saturday morning and I want to go back and look at this one also. Does anyone see any red flags from what I described here? Now for the price. They're asking $22,800 which I think is a little ridiculous. If you average the book values from NADA, Kelly, and Edmunds the price comes out to $21,500 first of all. Second, the tires are on their last legs, the passenger side lock doesn't work, and there is a little rust on the inside of the passenger door. What do you think a good price would be? I figure the max I can spend is $19,500, so I was thinking of offering them that. Am I gonna get laughed at? Should I even bother going back to look at this one?