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New guy with a dead transmission.

I've got an '99 I just picked with an NADP tranny the 4R100 I guess. My issue, On the drive home, the rear u-joint on the driveshaft broke and the weight of the flopping driveshaft at highway speed cracked the transmission case above the pan.

I guess first of all, this is suposed to be some high-end transmission, would it be likely that everything is fine inside? A new case and away we go? what's likely to be broken?

I've been looking into manual conversions, but this forum layout isn't like what I'm used to and I'm having issue's finding the info I'm after.

The S5-47 available in 1996 is the one I want correct? Must be from a diesel, and would save headaches to get the T-case along with it?

Will I have wiring issue or anything with a 96+ tranny in a 99 truck?
I've read both, that I need the other computer, and that a chip can override the automatic functions of the computer so what I have is fine.... which is right?
Obviously pedals, and clutch, flywheel, master/slave
Does the floor need to be cut for the zf5 like it does with a zf6?
What about the Speedo? Odometer?

I found a swap on here that was close, but it was a Zf6 and incomplete as the reverse lights and all that don't work. I would need everything to work when I'm done.

I hate asking such major questions while being such a new member, I will keep searching too but I'm hoping to get pointed in the right direction.
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Welcome to the ORG...

Is your truck an E99 or a late 99? What are you looking for here?

If you want to do a manual swap then I would go with the ZF6. You will need pedals, master & slave, floor hump, pcm or chip reburned for manual, flywheel and clutch, trans harness...

If your gonna stick with an auto its likely you wont find a builder to reuse your internals, maybe your TC... If its a premium Trans as you say who built it?

If you want to be done with it get a BTS...

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The tranny is from NADP. The NADP Heavy Hauler 4r100, I had to google it, comes fairly well reviewed, more so behind cummins than Powerstrokes. Was in the truck when I bought it. Definitely has less than 30 000kms, as the guy I bought it from only owned the truck for that many kms. He says only about 10 000. So the internals *should* be damn near perfect.

I'm not sure if it's early or late 99 I'll have to look later this week. What difference will this make as far as my tranny issue? Hopefully nothing I haven't thought of yet. I found a thread on here that says major differences that I'll look at.

I'm hugely curious about a zf5 swap from an older powerstroke, mostly for the cheap factor, more so than the zf6 for now. Can that be done? What do I keep reading about dowels when doing tranny swaps? I'm coming from rangers so this is new territory for me, I have done manual conversions before though.

Basically I'm trying to come up with the cheapest/fastest solution to getting this truck back up and running, while keeping reliability, and all I know for sure is I have a nearly brand new transmission with a cracked case.
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Yes you can swap in a ZF5. It is fairly simple to do if you have all the parts and tools. If you have help it should be a weekend swap. I would shop around for a ZF6 though IMO.

There is a guy here on the ORG selling a bunch of swap parts and a ZF5 for like $500... I'll see if I can find the link.

On another note theres a good chance that your internals have some damage if there was enough force to crack the case.

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Heres the link...

http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/sho...d.php?t=246428


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I can get a zf5 for next to nothing that's why I'm curious. Money is somewhat tight at the moment and I'd like to throw this 5 in for now and in the next year do the zf6.

So I guess I need:
Tranny - its a 95-96 I don't remember.
Clutch stuff
Pedals from my generation or maybe the older ones will work.
PCM I'm betting will have to come from another 99+ preferably a 99.5 regardless of what my truck is now apparently.
Driveshafts? I need a rear anyway but what about the front?


Does the flOor need to be modified like for the zf6?
And what are the dowels I keep reading about? How ate they going to affect this?

Last two questions are my biggest concerns.


You're a hell of a help man.
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