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Derale 8 quart pan for 4R100

Knock wood, no problems with my 4R100.... trying to keep it that way....

Anybody used this Derale 14208 pan yet ?

Derale 8 quart pan - anybody use this ?

Rgds, Dave.
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Dave,

I've never seen one installed. Some advice, you really don't need the extra capacity from the pan. Unless your looking to just deck out the tranny. Spend the extra cash on a good cooling system.
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Thnx Fordnutz.... I get that the best $ return is a (radiator mounted) cooler upgrade... I may end up doing both.

In part, gotta decide how I'm going to measure trani temperature.... I think Scan Guage II reports it.... If I go that route, then I have less reason to upgrade the trani drain pan.... tho part of me likes the idea of having a dedicated olde school Trans Temp guage....

I went thru the Derale catolog, they have some interesting products.... when I do the stuff in front of the radiator, will see how their stacked plate coolers compare with the stock 6.0 upgraded cooler .....

Seeing as you've built a 4R100, I've gotta ask.... The impression I get is that folks consider the stock 7.3 trans cooler to be undersized... do you agree ?

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Dave,

I don't know anything about scan gauge, I've never used one. I do like the dedicated ones myself (autometer) and those are the ones I use. The stock cooler is very undersized and needs to be upgraded without a doubt. I build 4r100's so every one that I install gets a larger cooler no matter what unless someone has already changed it.
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Get yourself a 31 row 6.0 cooler..pan's a waste of $$
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Hi Cary,

Does that 6.0 cooler have a thermostat/bypass built in ? (Re. warmup time).

Ballpark price ? For what I see these going for used, I'll also be shopping stacked plate aftermarket performance coolers.

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Hi Fordnutz..... I checked the X gauge extensions for the 7.3 on Scan Gauge II - it does measure Engine Oil Temperature, it may read Trans temp - not entirely sure yet though.

Scan Gauge II sucks data from the OBD port. A buddy of mine runs a number of them on his trucks - they can be used as an OBD code reader, but also has a gauge display mode, up to 4 at a time. (X gauge are gauge extensions - you can have more the basic 12, depending on your vehicle). They are about $159 Canadian, so the price is decent, as soon as I can scrape up some post Xmas cash, I'm going to pick one up, even if it doesn't directly measure Trans temp.

(But... like I said earlier, I still like the olde school analog gauges, I would like to install one independent of the Scan Gauge . BTW.... one nice thing about the Scan Gauge II is that it has memory, and can record peak readings - my buddy rarely lends his trucks out (I could borrow one anytime, but he's known me forever and a day), one of the last times he did, that guy won't be borrowing one again, after my friend saw the data on the peak transmission temperature !).

Thnx for the feedback guys, this helps me decide where to spend my pennies.

Rgds, Dave.
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Meant to post the link...

ScanGaugeII - Digital Gauges

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Hi Cary,

Does that 6.0 cooler have a thermostat/bypass built in ? (Re. warmup time).

Ballpark price ? For what I see these going for used, I'll also be shopping stacked plate aftermarket performance coolers.

Rgds, Dave.

I'll answer,

No they do not but you can look at the TRU-COOL from the dieselsite. The 45K cooler is a good choice and all you need.
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That's a good site/price.... I thought these trucks have the temp bypass already, confirmed there too....

Thnx, D.
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