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post #1 of 25 Old 02-23-2014, 02:48 PM Thread Starter
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No Start No Smoke

I just changed the fuel injectors on my e99 powerstroke. I followed the procedure of injector replacement to my knowledge the correct way. That being said my truck will now not start. When I try to start it does not smoke, which I had not expected for the first start. I was thinking that maybe when I was crawling around in the engine bay I might have damaged the ICP or something like that. Here is a list of what I have checked so far:
1.) Fuel Pump is in working order
2.) Fuel Bowl is full
3.) HPOP resevoir is full
4.) Valve cover gaskets are new (replaced along with injectors)
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Bump ttt. Anybody?

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Ok, Assuming that you got all of the injectors in properly, the Under Valve Cover harnesses plugged in properly and all that, You could just have a bunch of air in the ICP system. Just in case you bumped the ICP sensor and busted it, unplug it. The PCM will default and it should start if thats the problem. If that does nothing, plug it back in. Sometimes these things just suck to prime the ICP system. Disconnect the small wires on the glow plug relay. You can use a little starting fluid, or even WD 40 to get the thing to light for a bit. Once it fires, it will run really rough as the air gets purged out of the HP oil system, then smooth out. Let it run for 30-40 minutes before you shut it off or it will long crank. If you cant get it to stay running, its time to find a scan tool to check a few things. Verify ICP while cranking. You should see at least 1 volt of ICP when the engine is cranking (almost 600 psi). Verify cranking RPM. I see alot of these that sound like they are cranking fine and dont make the 120 RPM required to start the engine.
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That's worth a try. I guess ether will be ok with the glow plugs disconnected, I never thought of doing it that way. Thanks man

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Don't use ether yet. Just keep batteries good, and crank for a while, then rest, and repeat.
You can open your HPOP reservoir and make sure it's full.



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Don't use ether yet. Just keep batteries good, and crank for a while, then rest, and repeat.
You can open your HPOP reservoir and make sure it's full.
I have already done all of the above. I have cranked my truck literally 10 times of 20 seconds with 5 minute breaks. I have NEVER used ether on my truck but im about to if I unhook my glow plugs.

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Keep cranking. Make sure your UVCH's are correct.

Seen some that are a real bear to get going after the oil rails have air in them.

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UVCH's are new and I double checked them. Also the male ends are new too. I guess I could try cranking it more, but I've already cranked it for a long time. How long exactly does it usually take for 7.3s to start after injector replacement? I realize that the 7.3 is a different animal but I have replaced injectors on a few tractors and mechanically injected vehicles and it's never taken this long for them to start.

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I've seen guys cook starters trying to get them going. As long as the glow plugs are disconnected, you won't hurt anything. I've been doing it this way for more than 20 years.
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Not trying to argue; I haven't worked on diesels for 20+yrs. However, physics says that because this motor uses compression ignition and not sparks, and only intakes air and not an air/fuel mix, there is always the possibility of predetonation.



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