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winter hards starts/plugging it in

so i have been having a hard time starting my truck this season

got home from work last night and she would not start at all at 30* after sitting for a week, finally took a can of ether to get her going(i know bad)

i replaced the glow plugs with auto-lights when i did the cups back in apr.,
and i notice the factory relay was getting hot when i was trying to start it so i know it is getting power,

and i have rotella t in it now

i am going to order the new larger GP relay for it from guzzler's site,
my question are,
1.does synthetic oil make a huge difference?
2. anything i should look at? i added howe's diesel treatment this fillup
3. will the bigger relay help?

my other question is the engine block heater capable of being plugged in for weeks at a time? from temps in 30 at night and 60s-70s during the day? (i know it is going to get colder)

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I can answer some of your question. I live in CO too, and have had no start up issues with our recent cooler weather. Are you getting a SES? If not, it probably is the glow plugs. Is the glow plug indicator coming on your dash? Since you already replaced the glow plugs, I'd test your relay.
You can keep your block heater plugged in as long as you want.



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autolite plugs are junk. take them out and put motorcraft plugs in.

the stock relay is junk as well.
if you still have hard starts with the new relay, i would put some 5w-40 synthetic in and you should be good from there.

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i just ordered the bigger relay today will be here wendsday, was even hard to start today...

the glowplug light comes on and stays off, i have tried cycling it and waiting 2 mins and both i usually get the same result,

are the autolites that bad? thats the only thing i replace back in may when i did the injector cups as preventive maintenance, seem to start better when i bought it in march.

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I'm having the same problem as well. Last winter this truck would start in -15C no problem!
This morning it took me about 10 minutes to get her going, but it was only 10C outside!
Time for glow plugs? I guess i should have done them when i did inj's a couple weeks ago aha...


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Glow plugs, relay, VC gaskets and wiring, worn injectors (biggie), or worn starting system (slow crank).

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figured i would update, my ICP sensor is going bad(leaking oil) so it is getting replaced tommarrow.

the new jumbo relay and MC glow plugs(beru) have seemed to do the trick(knock on wood), she fires up right after the light goes out now even after sitting for a while even with rotella T 15w-40.

about 4 of the autolites where deformed or not working,, and i had to start the truck up to spit the #1 autolite out(was stuck in the engine, came out complete thankfully), complete garbage and only maybe 11k highway miles on it.....

highly recommend the White rogers Relay to anyone

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Do you have part numbers or a link for the parts you put in...???
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