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Old 07-27-2013, 09:19 AM
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years of frustration

Once again I hoping someone on here can give some direction.

2003 7.3
311,000 miles owned since it had 190k
Oil fresh/up to level/synthetic
Last fall 2012- new stancor, ucvh, glow plugs recently checked and up to spec.
Batteries test good.
New starter last summer
New injector o rings last summer
I assume injectors are original but not positive
Reservoir has oil in it, within 1"-2" or so from top, not sure if it should be fuller?
No oil leaks (maybe a few drops on driveway) doesn't burn oil
No oil in coolant/ no coolant in oil
Doesn't miss/run rough after warmed up
TS 6 position chip
Doesn't smoke while driving and warm, heavy white smoke at first start up in the morning's
Fuel bowl is full and fills quickly

Basically the problem is the past three years I've had starting problems especially in the winter, the truck will absolutely not start unless not plugged in during 40 degree weather. Now that it is warmer it will start but not like it did in the past summers It's turning over way too much (starter still spins fast), last night the temperature was in the low 60's and I had a terrible time trying to get it to start.I did replace 2 fuel hose lines last summer (lines running along drivers side/lower engine area and I'm going to make sure fittings are tight after I get done typing this (but I haven't noticed any fuel leaks but will check none the less. My question is say you know that glow plugs/ battery ect. Are good what would you check next? I was going to go to the stealership and have it scanned but I wanted to be armed with something being that when I called to make an appointment the service manager acted like I didn't know what I was talking about and pretty much said that it was the g.p.'s even though that day was in the upper 80's. Anything I should check first? Can their scanner test the injectors without pulling them?

Thanks in advance
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:39 PM
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Id check level in hpop. At most, it should be is 1in deep from plug hole
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:40 PM
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And/or...check the gpr and ohm/replace plugs. Whats your fuel pressure at? Whats psi of oil pressure
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:10 AM
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I don't have gauges for oil/fuel is there a cheap way to rig some up? I'll do a search and see
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I just had one a couple months ago that the owner wanted new glow plugs, relay and harness. I did all of this and a couple of weeks later he calls me and says it won't start good even when it is above 60. Ended up being ipr was bad and not providing enough injector pressure.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:16 PM
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I don't have gauges for oil/fuel is there a cheap way to rig some up? I'll do a search and see
yup...200psi liquid filled gauge from Harbor freight
18" grease gun flex hose..Harbor frieght
#4orb x 1/8npt(F) adaptor..(for fuel bowl)

That #4orb will also fit the allen plug bolt atop the hpop resivvoir to test oil psi too..

If you find the ports on the backside of fuel bowl, tough to get at, then install a 1/8npt(M) x 1/4jic(M) 90* fitting into the $orb fitting. Then get a 1/8npt(F) x 1/4jic(F) for the end of the flex hose. The other end, you'll need a 1/8npt coupling to attach gauge to hose.

Same goes for hpop pressure, but using at least 4000psi pressure hose and a #5orb(M), to thread into the head, where one of the oil galley bolt plugs are...then just use jic fittings to attach with.

Last edited by timmyboy76; 08-12-2013 at 08:47 PM. Reason: 4000psi hose is needed for hpop testing
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:04 AM
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Thanks for the info, I'll stop by harbor freight after work, it'll be handy to have those.

Do you know if a scan from the dealership will test the ipr? I put a ipr on a couple of years ago and it would be nice if it was that and not the an injector(s). I'm 99.9% sure its not the g.p. system so I'm trying to get a list of what to check next.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:45 AM
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for the price the dealership will want, just to "scan", you might as well buy your own AE equipment. Also, check out "TORQUE APP" thread, in the general section or motor section..cant remember.
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:37 AM
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I would really like to buy the autoenginuity but I don't have a laptop so short of moving my computer into the garage the stealership scan might be my only option for now. I'm going up to harbor freight this weekend to get those items, you mentioned testing the hpop is there a way to test the lpop? I thought I remember reading on here that it should have 10-12 psi? I took the anti drain back valve apart and found nothing wrong is really the only update I have, and I did try and pay attention to my dash oil gauge which didn't jump up until around 10 seconds into cranking.
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:41 AM
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Chad the ipr is on the back of the reservoir correct? Any way of testing it? IIRC its the cheaper of the two (ipr/icp)
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