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Old 01-04-2012, 05:32 PM
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Changed Fuel Filter - Now No start, no WTS, no SES

Today I finally got around to changing my fuel filter. Took almost 2 hours, mostly because I had to get a mouse nest out of the valley under the fuel bowl. Drained the bowl, got the old filter out, bowl was clean. Closed the drain. New filter, gaskets and cap. Turned it "on" all lights come on normally. Checked for leaks. Turned it "off" to tighten the cap a little more. Turn it back "on" (still haven't turned it over) no WTS (figured because I never took the key out, maybe it knew it was cycled already) no leaks, get back in, try to start it. Turns over, 15 seconds or so I stopped. Turned it off, pulled out the key, and waited a minute or so. Put the key back in, turn it "on" no WTS, wait a while, try cranking it again, tach didn't move (normally does). Nothing. Run and smell the exhaust, no smelll. Figured something was up since the WTS light wasn't on. Go check every electrical connection I was near, and the ones on the front of the motor, and most of the ones under the dash. Also checked the ones on the sides of the valve covers (~1/2" x 3"). Try again, no WTS, and this time I notice the SES, 4x4 and low range lights didn't come on. No signs of it trying to fire. Checked the fuse box, one looked dark, but I'm fairly positive that's just the color it is, made sure all the them were in tight. Same thing. With the key "on" the oil gauge goes up after a few seconds, the coolant light comes on. Cranking, the gauge dropped, then came back up. When I stop cranking it, the SES and 4x4 lights come back on for a few seconds.


I've tried everything I could think of, and nothing helped. It sounds like it's turning over at normal speed. It ran perfectly fine when I parked it 2 days ago... Other than it stalled twice at idle. (both days it was under 30*, maybe 20-30 seconds after the high idle kicked on, it just cut out, restarted fine. Figured it was the fuel filter, which I already had sitting the truck for a week) Any ideas?

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Reading what I've found on similar problems, I checked fuse #22 (PCM, GP's, and fuel bowl heater) under the hood in the power distribution box looked good. I'll see if I can find another 50 amp fuse to double check. I really doubt we have one laying around though.
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Not even gonna read the whole thing.
No WTS, the fuel bowl heater shorted out in the bowl. Unplug it from the back of the bowl, and replace #30 I believe it is. 30A maxi. In the cab. Heck, check ALL the fuses and replace as needed.
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Check your manual and whatever fuses are for the bowl heater, check with a test light. Make sure there is voltage on both sides of the fuse.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:38 PM
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Not even gonna read the whole thing.
No WTS, the fuel bowl heater shorted out in the bowl. Unplug it from the back of the bowl, and replace #30 I believe it is. 30A maxi. In the cab. Heck, check ALL the fuses and replace as needed.
What he said you'll be running in no time... My dad called me the other day with this same problem.. I'm a 6.0 guy so I had to do a little research on here and wala... He was running in less than 10 minutes and he was about ready to have it towed to ford haha.. and it's def. #30...
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Not even gonna read the whole thing.
I know it's kinda long, wanted to make sure I got any useful information I could in there.



#30 was next on the list. I'll go check it.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:58 PM
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I meant I wasn't gonna read it cause I read the title and didn't need to read it all
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I meant I wasn't gonna read it cause I read the title and didn't need to read it all
I figured that. I just like to give all the information I know, instead of making people ask a million questions. I know I skip over posts that just say, "HELPPPP MY TRUCK WANT STORT"



Fuse #30 under the dash was blown. The whole top half of it is gone. I'll be buying some spares tomorrow. (I should carry spares anyways)

Thanks guys.

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Just make sure you unplug the heater before you replace the fuse, otherwise it'll blow again.
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Just make sure you unplug the heater before you replace the fuse, otherwise it'll blow again.
I was trying to deciding if I wanted to leave it or unplug it but I'll make sure I pull it. I wouldn't mind getting a real filter setup in the near future anyways.
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