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Old 01-13-2011, 01:20 PM
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wont start when i dont plug it in?

ok well it was snowing this week so i decided i would drive my truck to school . but when i dont plug it in it wont crank all it does is turn over and smoke. Is that a glow plug relay problem or the glow plugs its self. had to end up pulling it to a friends house and plugging it up for a while b4 it would crank.
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I cycle mine twice and let sit for a few seconds after light goes out and it will crank. Then I give it a lot of gas to get it to about idle speed then let off as it climbs in RPM umtil it holds idle
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Sounds like it could the GPR or the GPs. I'd lean more toward the GPR. I'm not sure what the likelihood that all GPs would be out at the same time. A couple of things you can do.
1) Have someone in the truck (you under the hood) and turn the key to KOEO (Key-On, Engine-Off) and watch the WTS light. You listen for a click on the GPR. If you have an Volt meter, you can check the output pin to see if there is voltage. If yes, it could be GPs, If not, it's your GPR.
2) When cold, not having it run, use something metal and short the two large terminals for about a minute and then try to start it. If it starts easier than before, you probably have a bad GPR.

R U getting the WTS light? You do know that a normally working GPR circuit will keep the GPs going for about 2 mins, regardless of what the WTS light does, right?

R U running any kind of fuel additive that has anti-gel in it?

Just some suggestions.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:12 PM
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well i cycle it a few times . and yes the wait to start light is coming on. so i do it a few times and it still wont crank. im not using any fuel attitives. dont really hear of many people around here using any its never that cold. around the 30's. ill check the relay and see thanks for the help.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:26 PM
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Its the glow plug relay. They fail all the time
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:12 PM
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ive seen a few post about heavier duty gpr's what do you guys think. go stock or other?
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:15 PM
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First, do a proper diagnosis before you buy anything. Read up -> Winter Operation, Hard Starting, Hissing Sound Etc...

Second, stop all that "cycling" nonsense Turn the key on and just wait a min (they're on for up to 2) FORGET the light, it's just an idiot light and does NOT reflect how long the GPs are actually on....
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:22 PM
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I am having the same issue with mine, would not start last night, after plugged in all night it started this morning. If I find the issue with mine I will post it up.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:12 PM
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As far as the gpr, I've run a $24 napa one for the last 3 years and have had no problems. You can spend more money on the heavy duty one if you want, but I'll just stick to $24 bucks every 4 or 5 years...
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