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Old 01-20-2010, 05:41 PM
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Will not start with out plugging in.

Hello,
I have looked through a lot of post and have been unable to find an answer.
I drive a 2002 F450 and live in Texas. Last winter I had to plug my truck in to get it to start in the mornings. I figured some of the glow plugs were bad, and since I did not use the truck that much it was not a problem. Then this summer it was in the high 90ís near 100F. The truck would not start, so I plugged it in and an hour later it started right up.
Now I have some money and going to do some work to my truck but have no idea what could be causing this issue. I know the previous owner used ether on it because he had drilled a hole in the air filter housing, and I have used it a couple of times when I was in a pinch and had to get it going quick.
Help what do I do? My mechanic says to sell it but that is not an option right now.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:43 PM
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Check out this Forum on Glow Plugs 7.3 Repair Help - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:35 AM
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Iím going to check the glow plugs this weekend. Would this effect it starting when it is close to 100*F?
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:07 PM
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check the hpop reservoir and see if it is full before you start it up.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:18 PM
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I check the hpop all the time; I still have not been able to figure out where my oil is going. Thanks for the reply, all other suggestions are welcomed.
I checked the gpr today and it checked fine.
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Old 01-23-2010, 01:31 PM
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OK where do I go now? GPR checked out fine. Checked the glow plugs with my meter and only one failed the test, all others checked out fine.
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Old 01-23-2010, 01:48 PM
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The HPOP wont be completely full, Its about an inch or so from the top. Draining more then that, well it could be leaking back down.

Ether is like crack for these trucks. Once you use it, the truck wont ever start without it.
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Old 01-23-2010, 05:46 PM
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I have owned this truck for over a year now. I have been trying to find a reason why or where the oil is leaking from the hpop since right after I bought it. The oil is something that I check all the time. It would lose oil but as long as the hpop was full and it was above 50* the truck would start fine. One day this summer I went to move my truck and that is when all this started, it would not start with out being plugged in.

I have only used ether 3 or 4 times since I bought the truck, and it has been started fine without it 100ís of times. I realize that ether is not good for these trucks but I would not say it is addicted to it.

Most of the time that I run this truck running I have a 40í GN behind it loaded down with hay. I have come back form MO. And went across the scales at around 30,000lbs +. This truck runs to good for anything mechanical to be wrong with it. At least once you get it started.
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Laketrotter View Post
Check out this Forum on Glow Plugs 7.3 Repair Help - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Good thread . . . if it was a cold starting problem

I think that it might be the IPR, ICP, or IDM possibly. Injector pressure regulator, injector control pressure sensor, or injector driver module. If you search those you should find lots of stuff about them. I don't know much past what they stand for
But it's not GPs, not in the 90s.

FWIW, starting fluid/ether/WD40/whatever is not good IF the GPs are working and are hot when you spray it in. The GPs will cause premature detonation of the fluid/air mixture and that's not good
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:22 PM
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I can't believe no one has said injector O-rings. Check your ICP when cranking. If it won't build up 500 psi I would say your injector O-rings are bad.
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