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Old 12-22-2009, 06:30 AM
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Venting...... no cold start again

Hey,

I am about done with my PSD. Everytime I turn around, something else is going wrong. Right when I need my truck, I have to work on it to make money with it, so I called a buddy, and gave him the job. I shoudl have kept my f-150 with the inline 6, it only let me down 2 times in 5 years. Once was a fuel line on the side of the road, which I fixed in 5 minutes, and the other was the battery, luckly I was close by, and my brother got me a new one. needless to say, I am about ready to sell this truck. there my venting is done.... thanks....

This time it is the GPR, it is begining to smoke on me, and one terminal is burnt. Plus the truck will not crank, even when jumped with my van, so maybe the starter too? or could the GPR draw that much that just the starter clicks? It is hard to work on the truck with 2 toddlers running around and wife is at work. Other usefull background info. Replace alt about 2 weeks ago, batteries are 1 yr old, but this is the second time they have been ran down. GPR is about 6 mnts old in it.... Fuel heater is bad and unpluged. I Need to get a fuel filter. HPOP resivior is unkown to hold oil, was going to check it this morning. Whenis does start, it take aobut 5 to 15 seconds of cranking and it starts right up. when itdoes, oil pressure is nothing, then about seconds later, it goes to normal, just a little higher than half way.

Here is my list of thinks I need to check \ get done,

replace GPR, check GP's, check HPOP resivor, get crossover line (TSC 4000 psi line!!!! 12.99) pull batteries for testing, pull starter for testing.

I know it is not that cold yet, hovering around 30 degrees right now. there is no plug close to my truck, so I do not plug it in. (live in a appartment) There is one plug close, but I am sure the landloard will get mad, since he pay for the power on that plug, or the lady that lives in that building.....(do not want to start any stuff....)
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I had a similar problem with my 99 would not cold start without ether or being plugged. Found the GPR wired wrong. Fixed that. It started. Moved it outside and later that night was dead. Changed the batteries and it cranked. Sat overnight unplugged and it started first time next morning in 10 degree weather. Let it warm up about 15 min and started driving. As I started I noticed my batteries were draining. made it to oriellys and it died. Took alternator off and had them test it. It cked out ok. reinstalled that and changed the gpr with napa gpr 109 and jumped the truck. Figured it was shorting somewhere and drawing to much that the alternator couldnt keep up. Has been starting fine and running fine for a weak now. I plug it up during the day and drive it to work at night. It sits unplugged for at least 9 hours overnight in 10 degree or so weather and starts on first try every morning. I would change your gpr. Those things are bad for causing problems. I know what you mean about problems with the truck and trying to keep the little ones out of trouble. LOL! Sometimes a pain in the butt.
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Old 12-25-2009, 05:07 AM
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Take a deep breath and calm down!!! I would replace the GPR with a Stancor relay, I have a write up on it in the 7.3 mod section. If you need one to get by until you can get the Stancor get a Napa GP109. Now why won't it crank. Check voltage at the starter relay on the pass side, you should have 12+ volts on both sides while cranking, if not you have a bad Starter Relay. If you do now check to make sure you have 12 volts at the starter, if you have 12+ volts there, you have a bad starter. The only one I would use is the DB Electrical Starter. Also check your batteries and make sure you have at least 11 volts while cranking, if not your batteries are shot and you need to always replace in pairs, you can't go by the FREE scan at Auto Zone to determine if they are good! PM me if you need help. I also have a write up in the 7.3 section on How To test the GP system.
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Fixed for now

Hey all,

I had a GPR from the last owner, so I just put that in for now. For the starter, I put a new one in and it worked!!! The old one, well was gone, I opened it up to clean it, and some copper balls came out, and the contacts where about half gone, hints the copper balls! but after a good cleaning, the starter at leased worked for me to move the truck out of the mud.

Things are going better, but it seams like one thing after another with the truck, I just hope I get it all worked out soon!

Thanks for the help.
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:54 AM
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I think I read about these copper balls falling out in another thread. It helps if you keep one thread going instead of jumping back and forth. otherwise I may be telling you to do something that you have already been told to in the other thread, see what I mean??? I think I stated in your other thread that I would recommend the DB starter, if the one you got doesn't last very long. If you got it from Pep Boys, O reilly's, Advance, or Auto Zone it probably won't.
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