You might want to look at the Pioneer F90T. I agree that Kenwood has a much better nav than the Pioneers, but the new pioneer is the closest thing you can get to aftermarket Microsoft Sync right now. It's all voice controlled for the IPOD and the Bluetooth Phone. I.E. "Play Artist Johnny Cash" or "Play Fulsom Prison Blues" and it just works. Very nice unit. Having that sort of flexibility allows me to overlook a lesser nav ability.