[TexasR.N.]

Mine are red

Originally Posted by oregoncalfroper

I hate to bring reality to this board (In all seriousness...... there is little chance ofa lib doing this) but it has to be done... There are NOT enough good jobs for everyone... Cograts! This is why I worked hard and continue to work hard, to get a good job and to keep it.....without government help.there is and will always be classes lower, class, middle class, and upper class, red's would just like 2 lower and upperWhere do you get your info from, you really think we conservatives sit around plotting ways to keep people down? Sorry hoss, we're too busy raising families, working, going to school and making our communities a better place, without government assistance. I'm middle class, probably won't make it into the upper class. Instead of building wealth I am building memories with my family......it's where my priorities are. and no middle class, for no other reason except some people are untrainable Why are they untrainable? I'll tell you why as
I have a unique perspective. 1) 19 year old mom with a 7 year old daughter, was it a conservatives fault she didn't keep her legs together at 12? 2) Money for crack, alcohol, a grill (gold front teeth), but no money for blood pressure meds. Did conservatives hand him / her the crack pipe? and and others don't have opportunity Another unique perspective, being successful is = to being white. Did conservatives put this line of thought into a child's head or did a family member, or someone in their community?, I love the old if you don't like your job quit it and get another, or if there are no good jobs in your state move... That is the biggest load of bull**** I have ever heard, most people can not pickup and move state to state trying to gain employment for a myriad of reasons There were a myriad of reasons why we couldn't get to the moon..........but we did it anyway. Drive is an incredible force when applied appropriately.most of which is living while you do it and the cost involved, schools do not prepare kids to go into the real world any longer and gain meaningful employmentKids being instructed by liberal teachers not educating the kiddos? You can figure this out and still vote for Obama?, most of you probably remember a time where out of highschool you would have some semblance of a tradesman's beginning to get you started, but now if you are lucky you can do enough math to work a cash register or stock shelves at wal mart Why study math? The governemt will provide for me. Why would I need to know more than simple addition?and that is supposed to be a stepping stone? Yeah I see a ton of people working retail moving up the corporate ladder or being able to earn enough money to live and get the extra education they need to succeed. There are jobs and people have to fill them and someone has to live on that min wage whether you like it or not so pay your taxes and shop at stores that pay they're employees a livable wage Illeagal immigrants drive down liveable wages, who wants to keep them here? Libs or conservatives?and health benefitsGo get your own insurance....a young healthy individual can get major medical and it is affordable. I have done it, I didn't ask the government for a hand out or expect someone else to foot the bill or pay more taxes and help them out Don't shop at scab mart and expect to pay no extra taxes because what you are doing is making the problem worse not better. Your big liberal government has encouraged business to leave the US. EPA regulations, taxes, other governemt regulations etc..........A conservative government is generally friendly to business. But wait you have a beef with "big business" the same businesses that hire Americans.

[quote=oregoncalfroper;977937]I voted for Obama because I believe though he will spend like a Dem spends..... well the reds been spending like crazy for the last 8 that the money spent will be better suited for the people as infrastructure, health care and job creation, Are you white? This is what Robert Reich had to say about governemnt and white construction workers and high skilled laborers today.
YouTube - Explosive Video Reich, Obamas economic advisor no "White Male Construction Workers"
If you can't watch the video:
Robert Reich: "I have nothing against white male construction workers"
Who is Robert Reich?
Robert Reich's Blog

Originally Posted by oregoncalfroper

You are wrong there were no overseas free trade agreements when Clinton was in office just Nafta,Why didn't Clinton issue an executive order and make Nafta null and void if it was so bad? and Walmart ships everything from China (See above for why China is the dominant manufactoring nation) or strongarms American companies to get what they want! You don't do this? You set out to buy something and pay and then pay the first price that comes along? Not me, I shop around to get the best price.

Well Nafta was garbage and everyone knows that.. after the fact except for the reds who have been pushing for more of them during Bush's 8 years they got 1 and tried for like 2 others they got Korea and the Dems said no to CAFTA Bush also tried to keep the Mexican trucking program going when congress said shut it down Wrong again. WE said shut it down. Our congressmen and women and senators did what we said for once. See just because Bush wanted it doesn't mean we all fell in lock step behind him regardless of the consequences.. I believe that Obama wont take 1 sided trade agreements where Bush, Mcain whichever red had gotten in would have. Umm, Obama got caught in a lie about NAFTA. He said he would repeal it at the same time he had an associate in Canada saying don't worry "it's just political talk". Really man, you need to research topics in a more thorough manner. Try a variety of news organizations, websites, radio programs, etc....

Originally Posted by oregoncalfroper

Some people have the idea that when a big corporation makes more they pay they're employees more....errrrrr false, corporate America looks to exploit the working class Quit reading Marx. Pick up a western novel, Michner is a good read as well.at every chance they get, they're only allegiance is to the shareholder. So the employees of Delta are the share holders, Southwest airlines as well IIRC. What doe s this say?
“Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.” — Abraham Lincoln’s Message to Congress, Dec. 3, 1861.

Lincoln was wrong. I never had a laborer hire me. I have had people with working capital offer me a job though. Just because a president said it don't make it true.

I sincerely hope you change your outlook on this nation. Especially when you contradict yourself so much.

Have a good evening,
Craig

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Last edited by TexasR.N. : 01-22-2009 at 07:58 PM.