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Contemplating injectors...

I have been contemplating which injectors to upgrade to. My truck still has the 15* hpop in it, however it was replaced by the previous owner less than 25k miles ago.

I have been looking at DIY injectors stage 3's. Are these Hybrids? Might it be possible to use nozzels with smaller holes that I can upgrade later for less than a set of new injectors? I am looking at having them de-tuned with a chip so I can grow into them as I get money for the other supporting mods. I have been seeing alot of people who say that they wish that they just would have gone with hybrids rather than making the stop at stage 1-2 on the way.

Is this some sort of pipe dream of mine, or is it thinking ahead?

I know this will probably start some brand bashing / fights, but I'm not looking for that, more of just hybrid info.

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I hear alot of people wishing they had hybrids, but it comes to a point that you really need to draw the line of how far you are going to go with the mods. If you can honestly tell your self that eventually you are going to install an IC, D66, GT38R turbo, or larger , 17 HPOP or larger, A BTS, Suncoast or John Woods trans built. Also with the injectors, I would get them built with the nozzles that match them, The nozzles are installed from the inside protruding out of the body, so the injector needs to be completely disassembled to change nozzles so all the seals and Orings need to be replaced, so you will basically have to rebuilt them anyways. The nozzles are the most expensive part, so the only reason I would stay with smaller nozzles is you were going to keep the stock ones, I wouldnt buy new small ones, with the intentions of upgrading later.



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Currently i am getting parts together for an IC, and I do plan on doing a bigger hpop and turbo in a year or so. I have a 5 speed and in the next 6 months I will be replacing the clutch so I will step up to one of the Hipo clutches that are available.

For clarification, I am saying smaller meaning around 80% over (like most stage 2's that I have found) rather than 100% over nozzles.

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for nozzles i am saying put whatever size in thats going to stay in there. so if 80s will work and you are going to stick wih them



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You could just get the injectors you want (Stage-3 with 'normal' nozzles), pay for it once and be done with it, and control the fuel with tuning. It's easier and cheaper to have your chip re-burned when you upgrade the other stuff than it is to keep pulling injectors out for modification.

Having said that, there are several guys running Hybrids with stock nozzles that plan to upgrade nozzles later.

An OBS or 2, or 3...
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Here is a good question for you Jim. With the Normal nozzles on a stage 3, and a de-tuned chip does the fuel atomize effectively and efficiently? I am not a fan of blowing black smoke all of the time or of having EGT's that are outrageous.

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Tuning, tuning, tuning...
I am learning more and more about tuning all the time. You can run just about any injector that you want, and as long as you have the 'correct' tunes you can do whatever you want with your truck.
So to answer your question, yes, with regular old Stage-3 hybrids, the fuel atomizes just fine and can be tuned way down and bo totally driveable and turned way up for maximum power.

I'm also with you on the smoke, and I now see what good tuning can do with that. All the power you want and no smoke, should be everyone's goal.

An OBS or 2, or 3...
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Thankyou Jim, I will probably be contacting you in a month or two for some squirters.

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Is the 15* pump the stock one? Do all 7.3's come with this pump?

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